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Former Elders Please Check IN

by jst2laws in

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i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1

i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.

Do you accept anger from others?

by kenpodragon in

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i would say that i get up each morning in a pretty good mood.

i get ready for work, drive there and then go about my business.

because people want to give you the anger to make them feel like others are having a bad day too, when you bounce it away.

I would say that I get up each morning in a pretty good mood. I get ready for work, drive there and then go about my business. Apparently though, not all of my employees have the same morning. This afternoon one of my staff members walked into my office and was all upset, she started complaining about this and that and giving all the details as to why she was so upset. It seemed like it took forever for her to get all the details out, and at the end she comes to this question. "What do you think?" or "Do you agree with how I handled this?" When she did this, I got the oddest image. It was of her holding this "ball full of anger", and she wanted to hand it off to me and others. Ever feel this way at times? Like people are so unhappy with someone or something, that the only way they will feel comfortable enough with it is to give the ball of anger off to another person. What I have noticed in my office, is that I can tell who ever accepted it, from who did like me and ignored it and let her keep it. The ones that accepted it, seem to take on the traits of anger that the person who tossed it to them had. They then add to it, and pass it on to other people with even more anger and frustrations. I even see e-mails at times, where people have such a heavy ball that they write me long wordy letters telling me how bad something is or how angry they are at someone. They mention all the details of what they had happen, why they felt wronged and even mention what they would like to do to get the person or persons back. So when this happens, what do you do? Do you take the ball from them and accept it? or do you bounce it away and go on with your day, knowing that such a thing is not worth holding? I guess I ask this, as I kind of do the latter. I tend to just have a great day, and that is all I accept. When people come to me and tell me about all their anger and frustration. I do not respond or add on to it. In fact I will say, "Oh really, did you hear about what my wife is doing in the babies room" and go off on something positive. It is my way of reflecting it away and showing that my mind is not going to accept the negative thought they wanted to plant. In most cases, it just tends to quiet them down fast. Because people want to give you the anger to make them feel like others are having a bad day too, when you bounce it away. Well they get real annoyed. In my time on forums, I have noticed the affect of "balls of anger" running through threads. I have seen them tossed around and played with and made larger. I have even seen thoughts that were just a expression of hate, that people grab hold of and ran with the ball. In all, I think I always try to present my friends with a ball of love. I think I feel better passing happiness around and getting people to think about things that bring them happiness. Not saying that there is not moments when anger might come into play, but why accept the anger of others, when there is so many things we have to deal with on our own without adding theirs. Now I am not offering this as some odd council, but rather as a "long winded question." Do you ever notice how often people can turn a good mood into a bad mood, just by them passing a ball of anger to you, that you to easily accepted? If so, why do you accept these and have you ever realized it did that to you? Added later : I would like to add that I would never ignore a friend who needs to talk. Venting though to recruit others into your anger or side, is more what I am refering to here. Before I left for the weekend, I did not want my last post to make me sound like I was a person who did not care. Just wondering

Edited by - kenpodragon on 5 October 2002 3:33:17

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DO WE TAKE OURSELVES TOO SERIOUSLY?

by minimus in

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this board is so similar to a congregation.

every type of personality makes up this group.

some are very bright, while others are not.

kenpodragon

I am to busy laughing to take myself to serious!

Dragon

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Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing

by silentlambs in

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service committee .

25 columbia heights

brooklyn, ny 11201 .

kenpodragon

I can not see this letter working in the favor of the silentlambs cause. Personally, I think I would have asked some legal advice before sending it. This is the type of letter you write when you are angry, but you throw it away before mailing it.

My thought

Dragon

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Chasing shadows of the past

by kenpodragon in

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i remember being a child and playing in a park.

we would spend our summer days in the park, with all the freshly cut lawn, the swings and the sand to play in.

every once in a while, we would get the bright idea to try and chase our shadows to see if we could out run the darkened shape.

kenpodragon

It's just me and was hoping you were not mad at me. It would break my heart if you were.

Tera

I am not mad at anyone!!! :) My feelings were hurt maybe a little over there, but I got over it. Having a pregnant wife and all the life changes happening, makes you think deep sometimes and when people you trust speak against you. It hurts some. I will be here still though, I am not returning to the other board. This board has a two post limit, keeps me under control. ;) So that I get all those baby things done around the house. LOL

Take care and good to see hear from you.

Dragon

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Chasing shadows of the past

by kenpodragon in

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i remember being a child and playing in a park.

we would spend our summer days in the park, with all the freshly cut lawn, the swings and the sand to play in.

every once in a while, we would get the bright idea to try and chase our shadows to see if we could out run the darkened shape.

kenpodragon

I remember being a child and playing in a park. We would spend our summer days in the park, with all the freshly cut lawn, the swings and the sand to play in. Every once in a while, we would get the bright idea to try and chase our shadows to see if we could out run the darkened shape. Of course, as adults we know the results. As a child though, it kept us active and we kept running after that figure on the ground and hoping some how we would pass it on our journey. Do you still chase shadows? I ask, as in this life I have had many contacts and experiences with things that stood high in my memories. I look back over the years and see these things standing tall with the sun behind them, as their shadow cast into the day I live. I turn to move ahead in time, and think that these shadows will go away, and hope that one day I will stand in the sun without these pillars of past memories. What kind of memories? Well for me, I think a lot about my time in the religion at times. Not so much in the negative of anger, but more in the small pieces. Perhaps I remember "telling on a good friend" for something I thought was wrong, and then seeing that friendship harmed in a way that could never be forgiven. I get those memories of shunning people and see there hurt, and wondering why I was so easy to judge them. So many small memories make up the vast amount of time that I was a Witness. I am honest with myself that many of them were good, but I am truthful with myself when I remember that some of them were very wrong. So why do I do this? I think it is something inside us that says, "in order to move on you have to resolve all these issues." Yet it seems that the more I think about them, the larger those past thoughts seem and the shadow they cast in my current life seems more stretched out and endless. There have been so many times in this life, where I will sit wasting a day or a hour thinking to deep on those past memories, and working out in my head what I should have done. Yet in the end, I realize "you can never change the past." So what does that teach me? Well it is seems to be this weird lesson I should have learned as a child. You see these memories of my past are not some separate part that can be ran from, they are what makes up me. The shadow they cast, is me. So much like that child from many years ago that thought he could out run his shadow, yet learned the shadow would always be there. I have learned that to waste my energy trying to out run my past guilt, and concerns is a equal exercise in futility. We are basically a accumulations of all the days that lead up to this point. The only thing we can change is the days ahead, but the days behind are just that "behind us." So no more chasing shadows for me, I know where it belongs and it can stay there my entire life. My thought Dragon

Edited by - kenpodragon on 4 October 2002 15:49:7

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The congregation witch hunt!

by kenpodragon in

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has anyone ever studied the salem witch hunts and trails.

what i found interesting about these, is how people who claimed to be peaceful, could get so riled up, that they were willing to kill people.

the spark that lit the fire was often a rumor or false accusations that got out of hand, or perhaps a misunderstanding on a issue or people thinking they saw something they didn't.

kenpodragon

Dragon, Your father is way off base. Confidential means confidential. He is opening himself up to lawsuits, and the Society would let him hang, and rightfully so.

I am not sure what you mean, was this meant to be addressed to me. I never mentioned my father in this thread.

Take Care

Dragon

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The congregation witch hunt!

by kenpodragon in

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has anyone ever studied the salem witch hunts and trails.

what i found interesting about these, is how people who claimed to be peaceful, could get so riled up, that they were willing to kill people.

the spark that lit the fire was often a rumor or false accusations that got out of hand, or perhaps a misunderstanding on a issue or people thinking they saw something they didn't.

kenpodragon

I have not personally seen wire-tapping with people. Being a elder though in my past, one of the things I saw done the most was people backstabbing one another. Sometimes the best friends were the worse enemies in the back room. The world is a big place though and I would never assume to know all the deeds of the Elders. Some are very extreme.

Take Care

Dragon

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I told someone here they looked like my son!

by Golden Girl in

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my son is second from the left.

his father is on the right!

(my hubby).

kenpodragon

Snoozy,

Tripod is a pain, this is the URL (bandwidth limits)

(Nevermind ... mine bombed too)

The link will show it in your browser.

Take Care

Dragon

Edited by - kenpodragon on 4 October 2002 1:8:29

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1925 versus 1975

by larc in

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1925 versus 1975 .

most here are familiar with the failed prophecy of 1975. there were large increases in '74 and '75 and declines for the next three or four years after failed prophecy.

now, the impact was far more devestating in 1925. i just ran into some interesting numbers on this subject.

kenpodragon

Don't they call this "those little seen facts you want know one to know!"

Very sad, and enlightening!

Dragon