Posts by kenpodragon

I was thinking today about that paradise garden the Witness always pictured. I remember all those happy blank faces, with the rosy cheeks and content look. They were all smiling eating a apple, petting a lion, and running around the trees. It all got me wondering, what plants will be in that garden?

Will their be a little Hemp in the corner, or perhaps a few plants along that brick side walk to tend too? If so, will this be how they get all those odd smiles, and find entertainment in lion petting for years and years. After all, Hemp is not a plant created by man in some laboratory ... it was around for millions of years growing wild.

So basically, do the Jehovah's Witnesses in those pictures look like "they smokem peace pipe?" Perhaps that is why they will need so many gardens and fruit trees, for the "holy" munchies.

Just wondering

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DID YOU ENJOY SHERHERDING CALLS?

by minimus in

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elders are supposed to be loving, caring shepherds.

when a problem arises, elders are supposed to be there.

visiting in homes was something the organization always stressed.

kenpodragon

I did not enjoy giving them or getting them.

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Poll: Another attack on the US???

by Quincy in

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ok everyone...what is everyones opinion on terrorism...i myself, feel that something else is going to happen, possibly on 9/11/02....what is everyone else's thoughts....not necessarily the same as mine...but does anyone think another attack will come?

if so what do you think, and when?

just some thoughts for the mind.....q

kenpodragon

I think this week will be the bloodiest in human history and we will be attacked many times and many ways ... in this country and others.

... or nothing will happen and we will just have a boring week

Dragon

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Serena thanks "Jehovah" after US Open...

by jack2 in

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serena williams, after winning the us open women's tennis championship tonight, thanked "jehovah" for blessing her family.

in the background were numerous us flags, and of course, prior to the match, the williams sisters were there and standing while various patriotic songs were played (oh, that's right....they were already standing since they had to walk out onto the court....guess that's okay).

while watching all that i could not help but think of all the jw youths who have been told that they could not particicpate in organized sports at school or otherwise.

kenpodragon

Yerusalyim

I think the only reason I knew Selena was (although she was not baptized) was because I had friends in the Spanish Congregation in our area and they liked her music.

Dragon

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Serena thanks "Jehovah" after US Open...

by jack2 in

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friends

serena williams, after winning the us open women's tennis championship tonight, thanked "jehovah" for blessing her family.

in the background were numerous us flags, and of course, prior to the match, the williams sisters were there and standing while various patriotic songs were played (oh, that's right....they were already standing since they had to walk out onto the court....guess that's okay).

while watching all that i could not help but think of all the jw youths who have been told that they could not particicpate in organized sports at school or otherwise.

kenpodragon

plmkrzy

I want to know, so I can shun them. LOL No really, I was wondering as many times the news calls people JW that just have relatives that attend, or they go occasionally. I would like to know which one is the case here, as they do call them JW's and from what I remember in the organization ... you are not really a JW until you are officially baptized.

Take Care

Dragon

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Joe vs. The Volcano - Allegory or Dribble?

by cruzanheart in

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okay, guys, this is my first time starting a forum, so be kind.

how many of you have watched the movie "joe vs. the volcano" (1990 - tom hanks, meg ryan) and what did you think of it?

i would've posted this in the tv/movies section but i found a lot of parallels to our situations and feelings about the witnesses as joe moved through his life.

kenpodragon

I would say it is one of those movies Tom Hanks wishes he never did. Although, "Bachelor Party" and "The man with one red shoe" might also rank up there for him ... perhaps he can blame it on the "Brain Cloud" from Joe.

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Hockey ... why?

by kenpodragon in

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in my area hockey is mentioned and known so little, that you would be hard pressed to find any sports memorabilia.

none of the schools play it, and the nearest team is over 8 hours away.

the local news does not even broadcast the scores, and you would have a hard time finding one person in town who knows who the stanley cup was won by last year.

kenpodragon

Only pro team we have in any sports is the Portland Trailblazers. Keep in mind, that LA has more people then the whole state of Oregon. I am not saying I so not like the sport of Hockey, (Although I have made no effort to get to know "one" thing about it ... by choice) only that I wonder why is so unpopular on the west coast.

PS : I have a good friend that lives in LA and said that even down there it is not followed as much as Football, Basketball and Baseball ... yet when he lived in Buffalo, NY it was the main thing people talked about. Guess it is a whole west coast east coast thing.

Just weird

Dragon

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Serena thanks "Jehovah" after US Open...

by jack2 in

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friends

serena williams, after winning the us open women's tennis championship tonight, thanked "jehovah" for blessing her family.

in the background were numerous us flags, and of course, prior to the match, the williams sisters were there and standing while various patriotic songs were played (oh, that's right....they were already standing since they had to walk out onto the court....guess that's okay).

while watching all that i could not help but think of all the jw youths who have been told that they could not particicpate in organized sports at school or otherwise.

kenpodragon

StinkyPantz

How sad for them. No I did not know that ... I knew there was a reason I hated Tennis and never followed the news. Do you have any references to this, as I have never heard that before now.

This is what I found ...

Venus and Serena Williams as Jehovah's Witnesses

SYDNEY -- "Unstoppable Venus Williams laughed off the suggestion she had nothing left to achieve in tennis after adding an Olympic gold medal to her growing list of triumphs." [NBC Olympics.com]

The fact that Venus (and her sister Serena) are both active Jehovah's Witnesses participating in the Olympics has provoked an interesting reaction from the organization. None at all. So while many Witnesses cheer for Venus, they know deep in their hearts that they would be subject to judicial procedures for much lesser offenses. And when Venus stood on the podium to receive the gold medal to the tune of the American national anthem, she became a different kind of pioneer than to which we are accustomed.
A usual matter of contention among Witnesses is whether the Williams sisters are actually Jehovah's Witnesses or not. Their mother certainly is one of us, and has been for years. The father certainly is not. (He often takes cigarrette breaks during the sister's matches.)

It's Serena warrior princess
By Patrick Miles, Wimbledon
July 08, 2002

AS a sporting spectacle, it was not of the highest order; as a psycho-drama, it was riveting. At least it was a vast improvement on the last time the Williams sisters met, in the final of the French Open last month.

This time, there was much more to admire on an athletic level and less of which to despair, as far as skills and execution were concerned.

Serena, who beat older sister Venus 7-6 (7-4) 6-3 for her third Grand Slam title and her first at Wimbledon, displayed more power and more powerful emotions on court.

Venus, hampered by a strain in her right arm, played with an expression of stone and the body language of someone who does not want to lord it over her younger sister Venus, 22, was aiming for a Wimbledon hat-trick on Saturday night, while Serena, 20, was trying for her first on the sacred grass court.

Right from the start of the fortnight, it seemed that Serena had the greater desire to win the title no matter who she met in the final.

Just as she had been at Roland Garros, the older sibling appeared subdued, to the extent that her normal weapons the serve and the backhand were lacking their usual penetration.

Venus, who afterwards played down the pain in her arm, hit one ace, two service winners and six double faults. Even though her first-serving percentage was 70, it had little effect on Serena.

The count of unforced errors, so high in Paris, was down to 25 for Venus and 22 for Serena from a total of 133 points.

However they match up against each other, there is a conviction that the sisters will dominate for years to come.

Of all the leading players, possibly only Lindsay Davenport, who was unable to play at Wimbledon due to injury, can challenge the Williams duopoly.

It is to be hoped that Davenport will make her presence felt again by the time the US Open starts on August 26.

Nine-time Wimbledon champion Martina Navratilova has warned that Serena's triumph represents the start of what could be a decade of Grand Slam domination by the American sister act.

"I think if they both stay committed they can do this for another 10 years, easy," Navratilova said.

"Right now they are dominating and they have been doing it all year. Lindsay Davenport matches up with power but not the speed, and Martina Hingis needs to get a better serve she is losing too many points on her second serve."

Serena, who will be officially installed today as world No. 1 when the new computer rankings are released, and Venus are likely to be seeded to meet again in the final at Flushing Meadows, where the former won her first Grand Slam title in 1999 and Venus is reigning back-to-back champion.

"I can't become satisfied," Serena said, "because if I get satisfied, I'll be like: 'Oh, I've won Wimbledon, I've won the US Open, now I can relax'. But now people are really going to be fighting to beat me.

"In the beginning of the year, I said: 'I don't care what happens this year, I want to win Wimbledon' and it was an extra bonus for me to win the French.

"Sure, I really wanted to win the French . . . I just couldn't even believe I won. But I just wanted Wimbledon. I wanted to become a member of so much prestige, so much history. I want to be a part of history."

That much is taken care of: the extraordinary phenomenon of two sisters becoming the two best players in the world.

The crowd for the final, though fully appreciative, was muted compared with other such occasions on centre court. No one knew quite who to support.

But there were many glad to witness Serena's win, after which she thanked Jehovah, as well as her support team.

"If you don't believe in God, it's going to be tough to live life because pretty much that's the basis of life it comes from God," Serena said.

"So being a Jehovah's Witness, obviously we believe in God and the Bible. Without Him, I wouldn't be here right now; I really thank him for everything."

Famous Jehovah's Witnesses

Venus and Serena Williams - world chamption/Olympic gold medalist tennis players
Michael Jackson - singer, pop superstar
Prince - singer; convert to JWs
Janet Jackson - singer
La Toya Jackson - singer
Jackson Five - musical group
Selena - Tejano singer (Selena Quintanilla)
Larry Graham - singer; member of Sly And The Family Stone between 1967 and 1972, founder of Graham Central Station
David Thomas - songwriter/vocalist for Pere Ubu; convert to JWs
Herman Pizzanelli - leading Uruguayan concert guitarist in the 1960's; convert to JWs
Lou Whitaker - professional basketball player (Detroit Tigers)
Evelyn Mandela - first wife of South African president Nelson Mandela; a convert to JWs
Lieby Piliso - Nelson Mandela's younger sister
Rene Montes de Oca Martija -- dissident human-rights activist in Cuba (son of JW)
Wayans Brothers - comedians, actors, filmmakers
Rustom Padilla - Filipino movie star
Carmina Villarroel - Filipino actress
Gloria Naylor - novelist, author of The Women of Brewster Place (1982, American Book Award)
Mickey Spillane - best-selling crime novelist; convert to JWs in 1952 (still active)
Carol Swain - political scientist; professor at Vanderbilt University; author of Black Faces, Black Interests and The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration
Viv Nicholson - famous London lottery winner in 1961. She then became a devout JW. The musical Spend, Spend, Spend was based on her story.

... first time I ever hear they were on here. Now I know ... but I am wondering. Were they baptized?

Take Care

Dragon

Edited by - kenpodragon on 8 September 2002 1:26:22

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Hockey ... why?

by kenpodragon in

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friends

in my area hockey is mentioned and known so little, that you would be hard pressed to find any sports memorabilia.

none of the schools play it, and the nearest team is over 8 hours away.

the local news does not even broadcast the scores, and you would have a hard time finding one person in town who knows who the stanley cup was won by last year.

kenpodragon

I am in Southern Oregon ... Vancouver, BC is about 9-10 hours drive if we do not hit traffic in Portland and Seattle. Our local news just seems to ignore it ... even the hockey sports fans I know ... say that hockey is almost a second thought or over looked on the west coast of the USA.