Posts by Kent

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Watchtower Society visits Apostate Website!

by Rado Vleugel in

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hello friends,.

i thought this might interst you:.

the wts is a regular visitor of watchtower information service, in the definition of the watchtower, an apostate website (screenshots of site statistics that proof the visits of the wts are shown in the article)!.

Kent

Hi Rado

I don’t think any ‘insider’ dares to surf to apostate sites if he is not allowed to on Headquarter computers. Cookies will make him/her a suspect. When he/she removes the cookies he/she will be a suspect too. I am almost sure this is a ‘special task force’ that has orders to watch apostate sites.

I tend to agree with Dungbeetle here. Naturally it COULD be people just checking out such things - but the guys at Bethel are no idiots when it comes to computers. It's fairly easy to log on to your (or any other) site without any trace of wtbts.org, as you well know.

But - this person just COULD be someone inside being curious, someone that could be our helper in the next run - and when we blow the whistle like this - the security department will know exactly what logs to check out.

Let me tell you a few things I happen to know:

The Watchtower Society do have their own "Net-Nanny" program, that blocks for "apostate" websites. I'm fairly sure your site is in the list of forbidden sites, as The Watchtower Observer and Free Minds are. That means nobody not authorized should be able to access your site.

On the other hand - there are ways and workarounds - and I for one wouldn't publish such logs.

Just my very personal thoughts.

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Memorial talk outline link was too much for dubs?

by Haereticus in

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last night i posted watch tower observer link about the memorial talk outline onto a finnish forum.

by noon the thread had about dozen posts.

i just checked and found out that the thread was being removed.

Kent

Well, why don't you try to post links to the fINNISH pAY aTTENTION BOOK?

Finnish:
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010208&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=208004&Ref=AR

Polish:
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010207&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=207037&Ref=AR

French
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010207&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=207003&Ref=AR

German
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010207&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=207017&Ref=AR

Portugese
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010206&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=206006&Ref=AR

Branch Office Procedure
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010206&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=9999482&Ref=AR

DWELLING TOGETHER IN UNITY
. http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?NoCache=1&Dato=20010206&Kategori=SECRETBOOKS&Lopenr=9999266&Ref=AR

Yachyd Da

Kent

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I got a nutter !

by Simon in

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a good example of fine christian conduct, brought to you by "debbie.williams".. first email.

i'm glad that jehovah will kill you,yet!.

there is alot of things that i want to say but you know that jesus said in matt 24:9-11 that you would hate his faithful ones ,but to be honest with you ,we don't hate you ,cause in matt 5;1-9 says that we will be hated,so since we all know that ,than it is a pleasure that you talk about us.and other thing that i want to say is that people in the world thinks that we are crazy ,but if you would read the old testament than you will know that the jews were to serpart themselves from the other nations and that is how jehovah's witness fell about it,see when the jews would be around other nations than they would forget jehovah and they would worship other gods.when they do that ,it would cost them their lives.so it is good that you are talking about us and i would like for you to continue to do so .why?

Kent

Hi Simon

If everything goes well, and the Observer can be open as before (due to changes at my ISP), I will make a special part for mails like this.

I will, however, supply full e-mail address, full headers, the lot - so people can see what "loving and caring" assholes these morons really are.

I have got quite some rabid mails myself LOL

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Latest UN/NGO scans for 2002

by Dogpatch in

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this was posted before on kent's site, but the latest united nations response to an inquiry and the brochure on ngos they sent, as well as the new 2001-2002 directory of ngos is now up at:.

http://www.randytv.com/secret/united_nations_2001.htm.

randy.

Kent

Well, it seems sites carrying proven, factual information (and that doesn't try to "save" people into another "truth") do have an impact. Not only because they affect people reading them - but because such people talk to others who has NOT seen the info online.

I can give you an example. A friend of mine, whi is himself an ExJW, was talking to his family about the UN scandal and the Blood Scandal in Bulgaria. Naturally, the first response was: Have you been talking to Kent again !?!?!

To many it's more important where the info came from than if it's actually correct. That's why it's so important we can actually carry evidence, photo-copies, the lot. That way my friend could say: Yes, I did talk to Kent - but these documents aren't made by him. They're actually from the UN itself! About the blood case, this information is on the Human Rights server - and that's not mone :)

So, it's important to get such news out - to get it spread on many places - that way the JWs lose the argument it's "lies from Free Minds or the Observer".

Yes, such sites makes a difference - just ask our friendly cat here :)

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Are you fornicating with your spouse?

by Stealth in

last friday's daily text...... friday, february 22. flee from fornication.. - 1 cor.

6:18. while sexuality is a gift from god, it is not to be expressed without restrain, even within the marriage arrangement....... are they now disfellowshiping people for fornicating within the marriage arrangement?.

talk about going beyond what the scriptues say.

Kent

Fornication is fun! I like that - no matter whos spouse it is. LOL

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Washington Post -- Rev. "Jellyfish" R...

by Alleymom in

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although i am pretty new to this board, i've been reading about jw issues for a long time, around 13 years.

i have an old washington post article in my files, from may 4,1906, that i have never seen anywhere on the internet.. the article is titled "rev.

jellyfish russell" and it is a very sarcastic commentary on russell's infamous jellyfish statement, made during his court trial for divorce.. i copied the article from microfilm in a university library, and unfortunately it does have scratch marks, but the words are quite plain.. last week when i was doing an altavista search i came across one of tom tallyman's webpages.

Kent

XJW scholar James Penton, in his book "Apocalypse Delayed," has stated that Russell apparently had such a low libido that he didn't even consummate his own marriage!

As other people, he might not have fancied his wife - but I can tell you he fancied other women!

Unfortunately I won't give you any clues or evidence at the moment - but there will be a book looking into these matters released in a short while :)

The story mentioned is interesting - since everyone seems to have most of their facts wrong, he, he....

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Suicides within Jehovah's Witnesses

by Leander in

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over the past 3-4 years i've been hearing about a number of suicides that have been committed by jws.

whats even more interesting is that all of the individuals were male and they all had some form of a privileged position in the congregation.

(regular pioneer, elder, minsterial servant, etc..).

Kent

The Norwegian Newspaper VG documented 11 suicides among JWs and people DFd just in the area where I'm living. THis was a few years back - and nothing gets better.

I find it natural that "priviledged" persons commit suicide. First, they know what the "priviledges" really are. Second, the ones "serving" as elders know the hypocricy (and know they are living a double life as 5 star hypocrites) going on, and if they are the least bit human they know what they are doing. When they don't dare to face the real problems, they can always use the cowards way out - suicide. At least - they don't have to face the consequenses.

On the other hand, I knew personally persons who committed suicide because of the treatment they did get from the assholes called elders. Unfortunately their lives were nothing but a black hole (according to themselves and their ideas), and the only option left to them to get peace with their troubled mind were suicide. In this cases the elders were actually murderers - and many might say I'm cynical for saying this. But if some of the assholes responsible were feeling so bad they blew their heads off, I would celebrate with a bottle of whisky!

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Another fanatical Moslem attack!

by Mr Ben in

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just heard on the radio at work that moslem religious extremists have attacked a train carrying hindus.

some of the dead are children.. intolerance - religion - intolerance - religion -.

religion n.. an organisation designed to promote atheism.

Kent

Why can't we blow up all the Mosques in the country, blame the right-wing Hindu group, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, and sit down watching the fireworks?

At the same time it would be a good idea to blow up a lot of the old rubble called Temples for the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and other Hindu groups, and add to that a few Shik Temples as well?

That should keep the monkeys busy for a few days :)

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Widowed DO takes 30 yr old Wife!!!

by ISP in

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widowed d.o.

bro derek carter has caused something of a stir by marrying a 30yr old pioneer sister that is at least half his age.

if you ever saw bro carter you would notice a strong resemblance to 'uncle fester' of the adams family.

Kent

Sure. I guess those qualities are big boobs, blond hair and no brains.

Yachyd Da

Kent

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Do you still believe the WTS doctine's?

by TheRecordCollector in

man is a soul,.

christ was created, .

holy spirit a real person, or god's active force?.

Kent

Man IS a soul,
If man is NOT a JW, maybe. A JW isn't anything. They should adopt the doctrine of "man IS a zombie inside the Babble and Crackpot org.

Christ was CREATED,
Nope. He was the result of an outside marriage sex-encounter. Of course, that might not have been all that poplular, so they invented a god for the occation. I know a girl who claimed to be christian, standing in the court where the judge wanted to know the name of the father of the child. He was asked by the girl if he was christian - and she said there were no father. She had never had sex with anyone, and was still a virgin. The religious moron at the bar didn't believe her.

Let's say I'm just as sceptical to people fucking back in old Israel blaming Smokey for the action.

Holy Spirit a real person, or God's active force?
Smokey is just what you feel monday morning, if you're superstitious. Smokey is just an invention to free everyone from responsibility. Blame Smokey, God or Satan. Doesn't matter - you're not to blame no matter what!

Religion is all about psychological crutches!

Do you still believe in hell as "the common grave"?
Nope. Hell is having to endure a Watchtower Study in a KH.

Yachyd Da

Kent

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