C'mon now.. he was at least begotten once when was uncreated.. of course, the metaphysics of this escapes us mere mortals and defies all explanations. but then at the time of baptism, wasn't he begotten a second time (Ps 2:7, Heb 1:5)?
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How many times was Christ begotten?
by GOrwell inin light of all the recent trinity threads, how many times do you think christ was begotten?.
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How many times was Christ begotten?
by GOrwell inin light of all the recent trinity threads, how many times do you think christ was begotten?.
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In light of all the recent trinity threads, how many times do you think Christ was begotten?
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Rum or Whiskey?
by J. Hofer inafter a few beers and a bottle of french wine (2007 cote du rhone) i'm having myself some "ron zacapa centenario solera reserva".
but that's probably because i spent a lot of time in latin america.
i guess you gringos are more into whiskey?
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I always think of woodford reserve and makers mark as bourbon first and whisky second...
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Trying to Fade, Now they want to interview me on the SAD!!!
by burnedout ini resigned as an elder some time ago, have been working on fading, the wife is getting used to the new 'me' (not stressed, better husband and father, etc.
), been missing a lot of meetings... even received a few statements such as: 'hi burnedout, it's good to see you!!!
last sunday, i took my one of my sons to the local dragstrip to show him the races, oops missed the meeting.
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Being interviewed would definitely prolong your fade by at *least* 9 months, if not have it blow up in your face altogether..
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google about how to create lists of certain people (eg all JW 'friends') in facebook.. then in the privacy settings, exclude that group of people from being able to view your list of friends (sneaky, but handy) or your pages/groups or anything else there..
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Is Rev 5:11-14 Worship or Obeisance?
by JCISGOD98 ini asked a jw last week the following question, "is revelation 5:11-14 a worship act to the lamb or an act of obeisance?.
revelation 5:11-14 nwt states and i saw, and i heard a voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders, and the number of them was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: the lamb that was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.
because it's an act of worship and it is not allow in your kingdom hall.
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PSacramento: you just made the point that I thought of while combing my hair; that is that John later wrote of when worship was specifically forbidden (to an angel). I think that strengthens the idea that worshipping Jesus in Rev 5:11-14 was A-OK.
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Is Rev 5:11-14 Worship or Obeisance?
by JCISGOD98 ini asked a jw last week the following question, "is revelation 5:11-14 a worship act to the lamb or an act of obeisance?.
revelation 5:11-14 nwt states and i saw, and i heard a voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders, and the number of them was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: the lamb that was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.
because it's an act of worship and it is not allow in your kingdom hall.
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Do tell - what is the plural of worshiped?
John would have had to specifically say "and they worshiped them both." Of course, either he thought worshiping Jesus was blasphemy, and didn't mention it, or was it the idea of worshiping Jesus was so common that it didn't need to be mentioned? I suppose that's the whole point of this thread.
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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus
by snowbird inhttp://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.
i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.
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Podobear - stop padding your post count ;)
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Jesus Is Jehovah/Jehovah Is Jesus
by snowbird inhttp://www.str.org/site/news2?page=newsarticle&id=5725.
i fought against this with all my wts-trained power, but truth prevailed.. any way you cut it, it comes out the same.. peace and strength in your search.. sylvia.
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Great post tec - thanks.
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Is Rev 5:11-14 Worship or Obeisance?
by JCISGOD98 ini asked a jw last week the following question, "is revelation 5:11-14 a worship act to the lamb or an act of obeisance?.
revelation 5:11-14 nwt states and i saw, and i heard a voice of many angels around the throne and the living creatures and the elders, and the number of them was myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands, saying with a loud voice: the lamb that was slaughtered is worthy to receive the power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing.
because it's an act of worship and it is not allow in your kingdom hall.
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@Wonderment : but if Thomas exclaimed a " hebraistic idiom" as you mentioned, wouldn't he have been immediately condemned for blasphemy by Jesus? Everyone does say "Oh My God" today, but everyone did most definitely *not* do that back then.