Posts by therevealer

5 What good results there can be when
children are trained to keep a simple eye!
Consider the example of a teenage girl in the
country of Ethiopia. She did so well in her
schoolwork that upon completing her basic
education, she was offered a scholarship for
further education. Having her eye focused
on serving Jehovah, however, she turned
down the scholarship. Soon thereafter, she
received a job offer that would pay her 3,000
euros a month-a high amount in comparison
with the average wages in her country.
But the girl's "eye" was set on pioneer service.
She did not need to consult her parents
to turn down the job. How did her parents
feel on learning what their daughter had
done? Why, they rejoiced with her and told
her howproud they were of her!

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Jack Barr, immortal? More from the Watchtower of May 15, 2011

by dgp in

first and foremost, i would like to clarify that i am in no way making fun of jack barr.

he is dead and deserves respect.. .

that said, the organization he belonged to and led doesn't deserve any respect.

therevealer

sorry about that post leolia and others but you can also use the slider at the bottom of the page

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Jack Barr, immortal? More from the Watchtower of May 15, 2011

by dgp in

first and foremost, i would like to clarify that i am in no way making fun of jack barr.

he is dead and deserves respect.. .

that said, the organization he belonged to and led doesn't deserve any respect.

therevealer

***it-2p.786Resurrection***

Peter also describes the hope such ones possess as "precious and very grand promises, that through these you may become sharers in divine nature." (2Pe 1:4) They must undergo a change of nature, giving up human nature to obtain "divine" nature, thus sharing with Christ in his glory. They must die a death like Christ's-maintaining integrity and giving up human life forever-and then they receive immortal, incorruptible bodies like Christ's by a resurrection. (Ro 6:3-5; 1Co 15:50-57; 2Co 5:1-3) The apostle Paul explains that it is not the body that is resurrected, but rather, he likens their experience to the planting and sprouting of a seed, in that "God gives it a body just as it has pleased him." (1Co 15:35-40) It is the soul, the person, that is resurrected, with a body to suit the environment into which God resurrects him.

Here is found a very clear explanation. Notice it is not the body, but there is a body and there is no immortal soul but the soul is resurrected to immortal life (of course this is the soul, the person, not the soul ______ fill in the blanks). And notice too that they must die a death like Christ's, but of course not really like Christ's as in a horrific death but rather simply maintaining integrity and giving up human life forever. Here we are back to how can they make the determination for Jehovah that Barr achieved that. And if you want to look at there pet scripture, Ezekiel 18:4 to prove that the soul is indeed mortal, (here of course referring to the soul that is not merely the person but something more than that) it is interesting how they use this reference ***w103/15p.28QuestionsFromReaders***DoesEzekiel18:20,whichsaysthat"asonhimselfwillbearnothingbecauseoftheerrorofthefather,"contradictExodus20:5,whichsaysthatJehovahbrings"punishmentfortheerroroffathersuponsons"? Notice in this article they show or say that there pet proof scripture is really talking about the soul that is the person.

If you find this all convoluted and confusing I do not think it is because of my bad. I think it is just that.

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love this tidbit from the may 15 tower too.

by therevealer in

the watchtower ?

may 15, 2011 page 9. .

12 an exemplary wife helps the family to "stay awake" by assisting her husband in the spiritual education of the children.

therevealer

sorry Mad Sweeney = that part was my sarcasm

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love this tidbit from the may 15 tower too.

by therevealer in

the watchtower ?

may 15, 2011 page 9. .

12 an exemplary wife helps the family to "stay awake" by assisting her husband in the spiritual education of the children.

therevealer

mrsjones5 - I totally agree. BUT I cannot beleive that they can keep making these articles more crude and objectionable. But they can and do. I was at one time the breadwinner of the family and an elder in the congo. The time I had available after the schedule of working and trying to keep up the elder duties meant that my wife basically ran the show so to speak. And I know that many fellow elders had the same experience of life in the mileux of sillines that is the "truth"

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AUDIO: Watchtower says No Higher Education

by kurtbethel in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreg4kkser0.

at the 2006 district convention, long beach, california.

speaker william h miles - young people remember now your grand creator.

therevealer

Also think about their publications. Although they are basically full of flawed thinking and propaganda, you will be hard pressed to find typographical errors and for the most part they are grammatically correct. So where did these proofreaders get the necessary knowledge of proper use of grammar and wording as well as spelling. Notice my use of the term Proofreaders which means that the actual writers need for this knowledge is reduced allowing more time for them to formulate the "stupidity" in the articles.

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This is rich

by therevealer in

the watchtower ?

may 15, 2011 page 8. .

6 to exercise his headship in imitation of christ, a husband must learn to think of himself as a shepherd and of those under his care as sheep.

therevealer

THE WATCHTOWER ? MAY 15, 2011 page 8

6 To exercise his headship in imitation of Christ, a husband must learn to think of himself as a shepherd and of those under his care as sheep. So then there. He is a shepherd (an intelligent human, one would suppose) and the wife and kids are sheep (relatively dumb animals)