the sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.
increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.
Hey videot...
You got me thinking... When the message turns to judgement then they will be able to really hammer home the foreshadowing of the blblical story of not leaving (jeruselum?) even though nothing is happening.
The born ins will continue to be fucked.
pbrow
the sda's are also getting most of their growth in africa and latin america but plateauing or declining in europe and parts of the western world.. what's also interesting is the sda leadership fronts up and attempts to explain why there is decline in some areas of the world (albeit somewhat disingenously), eg, on the link below from 2014. but the watchtower leaders have never tried to give any explanation for why membership is dramatically falling away in the western world.
increasingly worried jws are instead turning to other sources of information to try and understand why the 'true religion' is contracting.. http://news.adventist.org/en/all-news/news/go/2013-10-13/membership-nears-18-million-secretary-highlights-regions-of-growth-decline/.
I went to a "journey to bethlehem" production put on by the Adventists for christmas last year at a farm near my house. Dubs are decendants of the adventists and their chronology is very similar. As I was listening to the dopes dressed up as the three wise men talknig about the end time prophesiec and the moon being in the lower left hand quadrant I though I was back in the kingdom hall. They are in fact hoping... waiting for the end of the world very, very soon, right around the corner, any day now which is to say imminently.
pbrow
i thought i would start a new post about trumps inaugural address.
has anyone here seen "the new pope"?
jude law gave a stirring performance playing the pope.
I hate to disturb your slumber but Hillary did not have an inaugural address.
pbrow
eurgh!
more patronizing and uninformed reasoning from the "experts" at bethel.
this time tackling the sensitive subject of those attracted the the same sex.
Talk to almost any gay person who had to go through growing up gay. Almost to a person they are near the view that they would not have chosen to go through what they were forced to by the viewpoint of good christians.
Having my high school age children talking about their friend william, dating deshawn now makes me feel a) incredibly proud of my kids, b) happy that it is much easier for these kids to grow up normal and c) acutely aware of the negative way I thought about gay people while still in the church.
pbrow
I dont understand the "trump is a puppet" comments. Almost all his detractors keep talking about all the stupid shit he says and how he continues to shoot from the hip. His speech was too dark, he didnt reach across to those who didnt vote for him. blah. blah. blah. If there is one thing Trump is, he is his own man.
He is not looking for wwIII. He is surrounding himself with doubters and outsiders (very wealthy outsiders but outsiders nontheless) They are do'ers not talkers. He is going to treat the government like a psuedo-business. Time will tell whether that is a proper outlook or not. If its not, he has enemies on both sides of the isle to make him a one term lame duck prez.
You can take the endtimes man out of the cult but you cant take the doomsday out of the man.
pbrow
is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?
from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?
why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?
I agree w/ outlaw... Those posts can play a critical role for lurkers who dont quite have the courage to start posting or asking questions themselves. When I was a lurker for my first few months here, those are the posts that I read from the 1st to the last page. They give all the superficial answers that I already had to "tough" questions. Questions that are blown away by the extremely well thought out and pointed answers of our fellow posters. I dont care if the questions are genuine or just trolls but they help out the still afraid and "fading" class of jw doubters.
I personally dont need or read all of them anymore but many new / lurkers do. Posters like "standfirm", "a beleiver" do a great service to our members and future members.
pbrow
this is another great video from theramin trees called "punishing doubt".
fantastic reasoning, and very well presented!.
really worth watching!!.
BUMP
been reading this site for awhile now.
i have had a long and often tragic life as a jw.
my story is so long because i'm pretty old :) i feel sad i've been locked in fear and guilt for my entire life.
Welcome!
Immerse yourself in the real life.... as you are aware it is difficult losing friends that you have had your entire life. Join a club or another mainstream church or just go out w/ work friends and put yourself out there as soon as possible. Talking to many different people in real life will help you cope with this colossal change in your life.
You woke up. It is what it is. You cannot go back to sleep. I was a 30 year born in. Its diff but it gets better!
Read what you want to read, talk with who you want to! Its your life now!
Congrats!
pbrow
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-lewis-trump-isnt-a-legitimate-president/ar-aalqsqs?li=bbmkt5r&ocid=spartanntp.
US intelligence has reliable intel that iraq has weapons of mass destruction and Bush agrees... bush is an idiot and a war mongerer
US intelligence has reliable intel that russia hacked and rigged our elections and Trump disagrees... Trump is an idiot and not fit for office
Cant win for losing...
pbrow
this really annoyed me towards the end.
the watchtower doesn't do its members any favors by frequently warning about stumbling and offending each other.
it's no surprise that this becomes a cult control tactic where you can't even groom yourself the way you want because it might be "cause for stumbling".. with so much emphasis, it became wussification and contributed to the toxic environment of jehovah's witnesses.
Holy eff daughter!!!
Through all of that... you are awake!!! Fuck her good parts, she is absolute poison!
Good for you!
pbrow
