Quendi: It will be interesting to see what directions it will give publishers about handling same-sex couples they encounter in their house-to-house canvassing work.
They will have to change their position on divorce.
irondork
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The WTS and Same-Sex Marriage
by Quendi inwe all know the wts position on same-sex marriage, but i thought it was interesting to see this piece on its website.
i think what intrigues me the most is that the wts approach is, as i once told the elders on my judicial committee, "inadequate, incomplete and insufficient".
the peice then goes on to give the typical fairy-tale solution to what it perceives as a problem with the experience of someone they call "nathan" and how he was able to completely change thanks to god's holy spirit working on him.
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How Cults Seduce (PDF)
by Bangalore inhow cults seduce (pdf).
www.mindcontrol101.com/pdfs/how_cults_seduce.pdf.
bangalore.
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irondork
Interesting pdf, Bangalore. Thank you.
I don't remember reading about this aspect of cult tactics in Hassan's Combatting Cult Mind Control:
T H E S P O T L I G H T
Cults provide selective glimpses of their parallel universe, by staging their own dramatic news, events and experiences.
As soon as I saw this heading I thought of the thread not so long ago about the governing body claiming the 9/11 attacks were aimed at them in the elevator of one of the Trade Center buildings.
Priceless!
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Hear ye!hear ye!!!!Take notice
by mouthy intomorrow the 22nd i will be 85 years old .
good wishes only please,remember if you say something nasty i will cry.
and my mum told me it is a sin to cry on your birthday .
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irondork
Wow! I just noticed this thread.
Happy, happy, grandma! You were one of the first people to kindly welcome me to this forum. In fact, I often see you at the front door welcoming newcomers.
I hope you're well and ready for another ten years at JWN.
Jason
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Children sining song 120
by lostinthought inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8wpvvzcxwc.
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i don't know if anyone posted this yet, but the kids singing this song made me even more sick to my stomach then some parts of the viedo, i hate this song because you know what they mean by "listen obay and be blessed" - translation: you must listen to the governing body or else!.
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Say what you want... I like that melody. They did a good job on it.
Your translation of the lyrics is accurate, though.
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Got My First Shunning Last Night - And I am NOT Even a JW!!!
by Yan Bibiyan inwow!!.
last night i go to the grocery store and see this guy, always been a nice guy, always says "hello, how have you been, we mised you at the hall" crap.
and i say "never been better, nice to see you" you know the ususal pleasantries.... not last night.. we go into the store almost simultaneously (from different directions) and as soon as he sees me he dashes towards the shopping carts.
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I find it funny now, that the 'dubs actually think their little act of shunning makes them points with Jah
That's exactly what it is. It's not a natural thing to shun someone. Not for me, anyway and I would think not for any normal person. It was very uncomfortable. But I shunned because Jehovah, through the faithful slave, told me to. I obeyed Jehovah and was pleased with myself for having refused to touch the unclean thing.
Horrible!
I remember the last time I shunned someone. That poor guy. You know you've hit bottom when you get shunned in the Walmart parking lot. He was one of the other gay guys who got reinstetd about the same time I did. He had begun to see the cracks in the walls about three months ahead of me and he was already fading. I used to encourage him as often as I could about the treatment he was recieving form others in the hall ("Just let Jehovah handle it", I would tell him.), but he was inconsolable. He told me he hated it at the kingdom hall and wanted to die. I didn't know what to do or say. I just gave him my phone number and asked him to join me in field service because going out in the ministry, as you know, builds us up spiritually and that is the solution to all our problems.
One day I saw him at the book counter after the meeting and went up to say hi but he looked at me kinda nervous-like and said he had to leave. Later, I found out they announced he was no longer a witness at the previous meeting, which I did not attend. Don't know why - doesn't matter.
Two or three weeks later I saw him getting out of his car at Walmart, he saw me and his face lit up with the happiest smile. He was so glad to see me. I hung my head, turned the other direction and walked away.
It's my turn to want to die.
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Downloadable leaflet "Highlights From The Finished Mystery"
by cedars ini've just finished my fourth and final "under the microscope" series of articles in which (hopefully) i've debunked many of the arguments often put forward by those claiming that jehovah's witnesses must be god's sole channel of communication with mankind.. this latest article focusses mostly on "the finished mystery" and the many errors contained therein that prove it couldn't possibly have been approved by christ when he was ostenisbly selecting the bible students as his chosen earthly representatives in 1919. i would like to thank and acknowledge alfred as being a huge help in compiling a list of key "highlights" of the book that serve to expose it for what it really is - a total work of fiction and absurdity.. shortly before alfred left this forum, we discussed the possibility of using his list to produce a special leaflet that people could print out themselves and insert in their "revelation climax" books, or "revelation climax" books belonging to family members.
i'm delighted to announce (with my best sunday afternoon convention speaker voice!
) that this leaflet is now ready, and available for download on the links below:.
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Oh, thank God!
One does want to be thorough.
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Please someone, explain scientifically how an omnipotent,omniscience,omnipresent,almighty GOD came from nothing
by smiddy inonly scientific responses needed smiddy
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irondork
Who said he came from nothing... that is, besides the all knowing Watchtower society?
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Essential Watchtower publications
by peggaloon inhi friends,.
i have a very nice jw friend who is willing to hand me some old copies of books / magazines that they are throwing out.
he comes with a long background of the cult so he has many years of literature (50 years possibly).. which are the essential books / magazines i should try to get off him to help me in my evangelism to the witnesses?.
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(Will the people of Sodom & Gomorrah be resurrected?)
Watchtower 1879 July 1 Yes
Watchtower 1952 June 1 No
Watchtower 1965 August 1 Yes
Watchtower 1988 June 1 No
Live Forever (1982 edition) Yes
Live Forever (1989 edition) No
Revelation -- Its Grand Climax at Hand! 1988 No
Insight Volume 2 1988 YesEither the Holy Spirit could benefit from a few AA meetings...........OOOoooooooooorrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!.... perhaps, just maybe this organization is not following after the spirit it thinks it is following.
Sorry to get off topic.
Actually, I have an Emphatic Diaglott if anyone WHO WILL USE IT is interested. I'll be happy to ship it out. First come, first serve.
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Could some of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and Jehovahs Witnesses Governing Body be suffering from Schizophrenia?
by Balaamsass incould some of the watchtower bible and tract society, and jehovahs witnesses governing body be suffering from schizophrenia?.
does it strike you as odd that millions of jehovahs witnesses and the multi-billion dollar watchtower bible and tract society might be directed by men who received a special calling by god as teenagers in the 70s?.
in light of the fact that 99% of jehovahs witnesses accepted the accepted watchtower doctrine that the 144,000 were sealed in 1935, those that suddenly began partaking in later years, (especially untested youth) were frequently met with raised eyebrows and thought of as possibly mentally diseased in times past.. could there be an explanation?
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I may be stepping down!
by Kool Jo inso the co is in town...sorry i can't disclose much info....i haven't done anything wrong that warrants no longer serving as an ms....but the co is thinking of deleting me as an ms (my parents are aware)....i really hope he does as this will make my fade much more easier...... freedom is just around the corner i hope.... peace.
kool jo.
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irondork
the negativity associated with someone being DA/DF or just giving up privileges...
When your spiritual health is measured by hours knocking on doors and literature placed and positions held, it is only natural to conclude that you are lacking spiritually when one of those items goes away or is reduced. It makes perfect sense, really. How else would one measure your...
... oh, nevermind.
Hope all goes well for you.