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  I told my daughter I was leaving "the truth" this weekend.

  by whathappened in

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  last week, i told you i was going to tell my daughter that i was leaving the truth this weekend and you all gave me sound advice.

  but, i cannot keep a secret this heavy from the person i love most on this earth, my only daughter, who is beautiful inside and out.. well, i have always had an open and honest relationship with my daughter, and i guess it paid off.

  this weekend i visited my daughter (who lives in another state) and i told her i was leaving "the truth.

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  Nobleheart

  That was awesome! All the information you put together was put to excellent use and I really hope it moves your daughter in the right direction.
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  I just finished Crisis of Conscience today....

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  2. experiences

  disclaimer:.

  i really hate to hijack this thread, but i wasted my one 24hr post on that window washing thread last night.

  i don't think i'll have an opportunity to post this up here if i wait, and would like to get it done before the weekend.

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  Nobleheart

  Chalam thanks for the scriptures provided. I've been wondering about our hope as Christians being in heaven or earth for some time now. Your feedback on this is truly appreciated.
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  The Agonizing Last Words of Programmer Bill Zeller *READ WARNING FIRST*

  by Yizuman in

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  2. child-abuse

  this letter, left by man who was sexually abused as a child, commited suicide after being unable to function in his life post molestation.

  it's very disturbing and may cause triggers from those who are survivors of sexual abuse, so this is my warning to those that may be very sensitive to this issue as from what i have read, left a very powerful and raw sense of emotions while reading this...... wow, gave me a very powerful insight, i'm beginning to understand....although i do disagree some key points he has addressed, but sadden he's no longer with the living.

  i can understand his position, his pain and how the molestation has effected his life.. at the end, i feel really sad for him..... instead of posting it all here, i'm leaving a link instead and a warning for those that are very sensitive on this issue and for those that are survivors of child molestation...... you've been warned...... http://gizmodo.com/5726667/the-agonizing-last-words-of-bill-zeller?skyline=true&s=i.

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  Nobleheart

  Reading about his horrible past, extreme isolation and especially his complete hopelessness in life made me cry. I hope he's in a better place right now.
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  Open apology from former elder

  by im stuck in in

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  i just finished watching worlds apart and was very moved by it.

  i served as an elder for many years.

  i wanted to convey to all how sorry i am for all of the jc's i participated in.

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  Nobleheart

  Welcome here im stuck in.

  It takes humility and courage to be willing to open your mind, see reality for what it is and accept the facts. It must have been hard for you waking up, being a JW for so many years and occupying a position of authority. Your being mentally out and offering an apology shows inner strength and character.
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  Did you like the Society's calendars?

  by JimmyPage in

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  i always thought they were the most boring things i'd ever seen.

  a picture of someone preaching in a different land every month.. i always ended up hanging something far more entertaining, like an nfl calendar..

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  Nobleheart

  no, i actually hated them. Really boring images that I wouldn't want to look at. If they sold them in stores, I'd never buy them.
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  Info For Newbies and Current Jehovah's Witnesses! Please Read!

  by mentallyfree31 in

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  2. beliefs

  example: gravity is real.

  because if 607 bce is wrong, then so is 1914 and 1918 and 1919. very simple.

  so if we cannot trust secular research, then we can definitely discard the date of 607 bce.

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  Nobleheart

  Bttt.

  I just stumbled upon this thread and I think you made a great summary of points to be considered for any JW at present. Hopefully many will be willing to research things with an open mind.
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  No More Life Story

  by Farkel in

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  2. experiences

  for reasons i've stated in the window washers thread, i will not write and post any more about my life as a jw.. thank you, "yesidid.

  " you're a real gem.. farkel.

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  Nobleheart

  Farkel I asked you to please write your story, and I read Chapter 1 with great interest. Don't be affected by what only 2 posters wrote, thus denying tens or hundreds of others the opportunity to read and benefit from your experience.

  Maybe you can reconsider since so many here were looking forward to reading it. But whatever you decide to do, you've got my respect.

  Nobleheart
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  Greetings to All, No Longer Lurking

  by Franklin Massey in

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  claustrophobic.

  that's the simplest way for me to express how i feel in the wt org.

  like many here, my eyes were slowly opened over the years as i did more earnest research, trying to reconcile some long standing spiritual quandaries.

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  Nobleheart

  Welcome here Franklin Massey!

  A great advice from another poster when I first signed up here was - "Keep on reading and keep on posting".

  There are many things to be discussed and discovered here and I've found people to be really helpful.
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  Judas, why???

  by dreamgolfer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do jw's continually "trash" judas for betraying jesus?.

  isn't it due to jesus death that we all have the opportunity for salvation?

  i am not suggesting we treat judas as a hero, but he was fortold to betray, jesus knew it was going to happen and went along with it.. if judas did not betray, what if jesus was not put to death, where would we all be now?.

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  Nobleheart

  Yes, Judas had to be Judas for us to be able to benefit from Christ's ransom.

  Jesus knew he would betray him and even ordered him to complete his task here at John 13:26, 27

  26 Therefore Jesus answered: “It is that one to whom I shall give the morsel that I dip.” And so, having dipped the morsel, he took and gave it to Judas, the son of Simon Is·car´i·ot. 27 And after the morsel then Satan entered into the latter. Jesus, therefore, said to him: “What you are doing get done more quickly.”

  Also the prophecies had to be fulfilled. See Acts 1:16

  16 “Men, brothers, it was necessary for the scripture to be fulfilled, which the holy spirit spoke beforehand by David’s mouth about Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus,"
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  I'm feeling disappointed now

  by Nobleheart in

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  i've been in this board for 2 months now, and have read and researched enough to know that what i thought was the one and only true religion isn't actually true.

  finding out real facts has brought me severe disillusion and sadness.

  as a jw i was taught that we were special in view of john 6:44 "no man can come to me unless the father, who sent me, draws him; and i will resurrect him in the last day.".

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  Nobleheart

  Thanks for everyone here for their help and comments. What more can I say? Coming to a realisation about the 'truth' isn't easy and I have very few people I've confided in. I love people here because they give me the time of day and contribute with positive and constructive comments.

  jwfacts - i have to read some books about cults to get the right perspective on how our situation in the org, isn't unique but shared by others too.

  designs & Mr Freeze - some days I feel like such an idiot for buying everything, and other days when I'm at meetings I feel lucky to have discovered reality when others are in darkness (funny because JW use that expression for ppl in the world). I really hope it gets better.

  GrandmaJones - I've had the same thought, too. If there is a God and I lose my faith due to my disillusion, then Watchtower would be bloodguilty. Not that I don't believe in God now, but our relationship is strained at the moment.

  Hoffnung - It's great the hear from you again. i'll visit the site you suggested. I'll also read In Search of Christian Freedom (i'm still reading CoC). I definitely feel part of this community now and will keep in touch to let you know where life and/or faith have taken me. One thing is certain: I would never join any fundamentalist religion, or start an immoral life. I didn't enjoy a normal youth, i've been in the 'truth' since adolescence up till present. I'm 27 now.

  nugget - i also feel it takes force of character to leave. the pain is indeed like a divorce or an emotional break-up. Thanks for the kind words.