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  Once Upon A Time in "Dub" Land Hell...

  by Was New Boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  a few years ago i was the host for the x jw "meet-up" group here in portland.

  i got a phone call from a women who was very upset.. her husband who she loved very much, was a xjw when they got married.

  (she never was) he was dfed as a teenager.

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  Finally the husband gives in and signs the approval.

  I'm no legal expert nor doctor, but I'm pretty darned sure they would not need the father to sign something to save the baby if the mother is willing.
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  New watchtower

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new watchtower is out (woooo) http://www.jw.org/ , and there is an article about "prophecies which has come true".

  the most funny one is the one about earthquakes since, well, there just isnt an increase in earthquakes:.

  what do the facts show?

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  Consider this fact: The Bible does not emphasize the number of earthquakes during the last days.

  Consider this fact: The Bible does not emphasize the number of casualties caused by earthquakes during the last days either.
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  New watchtower

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the new watchtower is out (woooo) http://www.jw.org/ , and there is an article about "prophecies which has come true".

  the most funny one is the one about earthquakes since, well, there just isnt an increase in earthquakes:.

  what do the facts show?

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  I might be slightly more impressed if Jesus had said: "In the last days. . . more people will die from earthquakes due too increased population and taller buildings."
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  How have your opinions changed?

  by LovelyEunie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  how have your opinions changed on subjects like premarital sex, gay marriage, higher education, music, smoking, interfaith marriage etc... and do you think they have changed for the better?

  personally i feel like everybody has the right to choose their own path, free to make their own choices outside of the jw's and everybody within their religion needs to deal with it and move on, like they expect everyone else to do when they made the choice to become a jw.. i have no problem with homosexuality, seeing that i'm bisexual myself; i used to hate it when my mother would get angry with me because i wouldn't tell my gay friends that it was wrong and disgusting and one day god was gonna killl them kill them for it, when she knew i was too, it was hypocracy at it's finest.

  smoking is so not a moral choice to me, it's a health choice.

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  premarital sex

  I'm opposed to postmarital sex.

  gay marriage

  Marriage is stupid.

  higher education

  Wish I had some. Still working on it.

  music

  I will listen too it, but not participate in it's production.

  smoking

  Smoking is stupid

  interfaith marriage

  Faith is stupid, marriage is stupid. Interfaith marriage is the combination of 3 stupid things.
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  What world events would cause you to run back to the JW,s

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a year or two after leaving the borg.

  i was on shaky ground.. any major catastrophe in the world that took place, i thought.

  today i can not think of one single event.

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  Everyone on earth is cured of every disease, people come out of their comas and all sleeping people awaken and walk outside and stare at the sky.

  Then a tear through space would have to open up in the sky all over the earth and a man riding a ghostly horse would have to ride out of it and announce to the entire world in every language at once: "Armageddon is only 1 year away, I have chosen Jehovah's Witnesses as my people. They are no longer going to be a crappy man-ruled organization, I'm going to make them the best religion ever, and then put them in paradise."

  Although that might not be obvious enough, maybe something REALLY spectacular would have to happen. . . like for example: Somebody goes to war against someone else. . . That would be miraculous right?
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  Why does the sun burn my eyes?

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sun is impossible to look at too long before permanent eye damage is caused.

  after the eye was fully evolved in whatever creature it formed first on was unable to look at the sun.

  why did natural selection ignore what rightly cannot be ignored?

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  Maybe the reflex is, but why does it hurt us in the first place?

  By "hurt us" do you mean "Why does it cause pain" or do you mean "Why does it damage your eyes"

  It causes pain because that's your body's way of saying: "DONT LOOK AT THAT!" That's part of the protective measures that most animals have evolved over the years.

  The reason it damages your eyes is because the sun is emitting lots of UV light. UV particles can actually slam into your dna molocules and rip them apart. Your skin is able to react to this and repair itself but your eyes cannot.

  So there are really 3 good ways of dealing with this problem:

  1 Evolve a thin layer of something over the eyes that blocks UV light, but lets all other light through. Like this thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_filter (This still wouldn't prevent the initial loss of sight from using up all your rods and cones, but you wouldn't be permantly damaged)

  2 Evolve the ability for your eyes to repair the damage caused just like your skin can. (Note this wouldn't prevent the damage, so you'd still be blind for a while.)

  3 Evolve an instinct that prevents the creature from ever looking at the sun to begin with. (This also solves the rod and cone issue.)

  4 Any other clever solution I didn't think of.

  Now to you or me, if we were going to sit down and design a critter. I'd probably go with solution 1, 2 AND 3. But evolution doesn't plan anything. So as soon as the animal evolved the reflex to look away, that was all that needed done.

  Until there is some selective pressure that makes it beneficial to be able to look directly at the sun, it's unlikely to change.
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  Why does the sun burn my eyes?

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the sun is impossible to look at too long before permanent eye damage is caused.

  after the eye was fully evolved in whatever creature it formed first on was unable to look at the sun.

  why did natural selection ignore what rightly cannot be ignored?

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  Shouldn't the eye be compatible with the sun?

  The eye might not be compatible with the sun, but humans as a whole are.

  That reflex you have to look away from the sun is an evolved trait which prevents you from injuring yourself.

  Just like humans aren't compatible with fire or stabbing themselves, so they evolved the ability to feel pain.

  Once you have the reflex to prevent yourself from going blind, there is really no benefit to evolving the ability to stare at the sun without injuring yourself.
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  How the hell was True Grit rated PG-13?

  by sabastious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the movie opens up with three men being hung and the camera angle leaves nothing to be desired.

  then it's pretty much nothing but crazy fun violence from start to end; some of it was pretty grizzly.. don't get me wrong, flipping hell of a movie... but it's weird that it somehow got a pg-13 rating.. -sab.

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  I should have never came into this thread, you should have put spoiler potential on the thread title. I haven't seen this yet, but you just ruined the beginning for me.

  Ruined the beginning? Is that a real thing?

  Bah, it's just murder, why should that be rated R?

  It's not like it contained something that no human should ever do, like having sex or saying certain combinations of consonants and vowels.
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  2012

  by cskyjw.sun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matthew24:7,8'for nation will rise against nation and and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.all these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.

  ' and according to the mayan calendar 2012 is the pivotal year(not 1914) and hence we could assume the events of matthew24:7,8 to be fulfilled from 2012 onwards and perphas then we could see the real tribulations upon tribulations.

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  from 2012 onwards and perphas then we could see the real tribulations upon tribulations.

  The real tribulations.

  Because all those previous earthquakes, wars, diseases and food shortages that we've had over the past couple thousand years were just fake tribulations.

  You know, I'm sure WHILE you are experiencing the problems we are about to face, they will seem to be the worst we've ever had.
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  Really annoying christian habbit

  by bohm in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know this is minor, but it bug me and i wonder if any fellow atheists have noticed it to.

  im talking about the random capatalization.

  like i can understand why you would write god with a big 'g', but whats up with writing he or him or the holy one or lord or whatever?.

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  It annoys me that they DONT capitalize those words when talking about me. "Boy that Lore... He sure is a great Guy" "Yeah someday I'd like to meet Him, since He's so awesome."

  Show some respect you people!

  One time a christian was typing with the capslock on, (as they are prone to do) and he accidentally hit shift before typing 'god' out of habit and he was struck down by lightning on the spot. The police found him laying facedown on his keyboard with the words on his screen:

  ONLY IF YOU REPENT AND LOVE gOD CAN YOU BE SAVMJJMHU

  (They assume the 'mjjmhu' at the end was from when his face hit the keyboard.)