Interesting discussion, I feel the same as what has been said. I'm almost 59, regret I didn't get more education when I was younger because '75 was so close. Still, I never thought life was so bad, too many good times and things to do, didn't want Armegedon to come yet,------and felt guilty for feeling that way. As far as paradise is concerned, when the friends think about it, their minds eye goes to petting lions, learning musical instruments, bountiful food, beautiful homes,------ all the good stuff. They foget that as we are, were taught, Jeh is this "humble" god that requires his SERVANTS to worship and praise and obey him. What's that going to take, 10 hrs a day? Then 144,000 kings, why? Then "princes" on the earth--todays elders. All this music we learn will only be songs of praise? I think paradise may not be all it's cracked up to be.
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Every day that goes by in this rotten old system is just one day closer to Jehovahs new world.
by life is to short ini grew up hearing this all the time.
it made me wish my life away, not look at the small joys every day of life brings to all of us.
instead i looked at all the bad there was in the world, my life, etc and blamed it all on satan.
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Dragons? Satan? Really Now?
by mrbunyrabit inin the bible satan is likend to a dragon.
and in reading the revelation book, i can clearly remember images of a big red dragon being cast to earh.
what i want to know, is if there were never any bones or evidence found that dragons existed, how the hell did the people of old know what the bible was talking about if they didnt know what a dragon was?.
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pontoon
Funny I was just remembering a buddy of mine that had a dragon. It's name was Puff, and it was a magic dragon. They lived down by the sea and they used to frolic in the ocean mist........
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Phone witnessing??
by OneDayillBeFree inits just praised religous telemarketing!.
ive been doing it this whole morning and the only thing i've done to make it go quicker was to memorize a disconnected number.. its been working extremely well.... but did any of you that ever did it feel strange like you were selling something?!
like you were in a call center?.
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pontoon
Just a few things I'm proud of from my 40+ yrs in the "truth." I NEVER phone witnessed. I NEVER pioneered, temporary, vacation, pioneered for a month, or anything else, NEVER traveled outside my own congregation to give a public talk. Just wouldn't do it. Period.
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Whistleblower Watchtowers Dump
by Marvin Shilmer inwhistleblower watchtowers dump.
today i added a new article to my blog sharing the whistleblowers letter to new yorks department of environmental conservation (dec) disclosing watchtowers pollution sites and incidents related to it.
my article is titled whistleblower watchtowers dump and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.
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pontoon
If a brother in a congregation was illegally dumping and it made the news for sure that bro would be facing a judicial committee because of bringing "reproach" on Jeh's name. So who's heads are going to roll at the farm? The brothers that said go ahead and do it, or the brothers that actually did it, or the brothers that knew about it and said nothing? NONE OF the ABOVE. Chances are it will be for the most part glossed over, covered up, and swept under the carpet. Some fines will be paid, Wat will be looked at as being good guys by their excellent cooperation with DEC, and no one will be held personally responsible. Their damage and spin control is without parallel. Let's hope the DEC is in a foul mood and stay's on this investigation with dilligence, because the Farm has hid pollution from the DEC in the past and will do it again. Hope they don't get away with it.
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if god hates wars...why does he use a war to end them???
by highdose inthis question occurred to me the other day.
the classic jw presentation is all about how religon starts wars in gods name, how awful they are blablabla, and how soon god will end all these wars.... with a war!
wtf?.
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pontoon
Just one time quickly comes to mind that Jeh did not resort to war, muder, violence to make his case. It was when he just let the unfaithful generation of Jews die in the wilderness and not enter the promised land. Why wouldn't that work in modern times, just let the wicked die off, preserve the good guys and gals? That would be instead of mass annialation at Armeggedon. I think my spelling is awful today
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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pontoon
For the borg and many witnesses the break up of families because of disfellowshipping confirms to them that they have the truth and are fulfilling what jesus said in Matt 10:34,35 that he came to divide families
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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pontoon
So the person came back not because he loved Jeh, but because he missed Mom's cooking. Isn't that the wrong motivation? Dude is gonna die at Arm.. anyway
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Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012
by Gladring inthe april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.
good that can come when a family loyally.
upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.
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Happy Are the Merciless
by Darth Rutherford inrecently the local kingdom hall had a local needs talk in which they expressed how too many people were listening to the meeting via the telephone connection.
as a result, they've changed the code necessary to listen to the meeting.
only qualified individuals (homebound, bedfast, etc) will be allowed to call in and listen to a meeting.
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pontoon
The contributions boxes are at the hall
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Chemicals buried at WT Farms (WT ruining the earth)
by doinmypart init seems that the wt is guilty of illegally dumping printing chemicals (or as they like to say "ruining the earth") in upstate new york.
read the full articles from the news sites below.. "state officials are investigating chemical pollution found buried at an upstate new york property owned by the jehovah's witnesses organization.
" http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/8e675d204fbf4352ab2cf65086b4b411/ny--buried-chemicals/.
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pontoon
Back early in 2000-2003 the farm was fined for illegal dumping, I don't think it involved chemicals, just solids like construction debri, tires.... Anyway I knew the bro. hired to remediate the mess, I think it was just a fraction of what was really dumped in there. I remember wondering why the DEC was letting the Farm off so easy, why they did not make the Farm excavate much more than they did. Back then they did a site clean up, remediation, paid a fine and I think that was the end of it. I thought they got off real easy. If they have to do a chemical clean up now it might be a different story. Could be very, very, very,.....expensive.