It's all BS. Pioneers would go work at the Wat Farm picking blueberries and they could count their time, it was "sacared" service." So their time had nothing to do with finding the sheep, saving lives. A regular publisher could take time off from work or his/her regular service time, go work at the farm and their time did not count. It's all man made up BS.
pontoon
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Pioneers and Their Way of Counting "Time"
by Eiben Scrood inin the congregations in my area there was an expression to the effect that 'there's counting time and then there's the way pioneers count their time'.
the watchtower's guidelines were pretty strict on when time could be counted.
some pioneers followed it and others didn't.. on particularly motivated young man comes to mind, he would work full-time or close to it and pioneer.
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2012 July Kingdom Ministry!
by Atlantis in.
2012 july kingdom ministry*click the link below and when the next page appears scroll down and click the link in the long blue box that says: (click here to start download from sendspace).
ignore all the other buttons and symbols.
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pontoon
So I haven't been to a meeting in over two years now, but when I scanned down thru that KM I felt like I haven't missed one meeting. Same old..........
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3.5 years vs. a lifetime of going door to door.
by tootired2care indid it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?
i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".
what are your thoughts?.
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pontoon
Years after Cornelius the gentiles were still not preached to. It wasn't until Paul began preaching and began to establish congregations and convinced the converted Jews in Jerusalem that gentiles could be accepted that the gentiles were. That was when even Peter had to give in to Paul's argument that if God considered them clean how could they not? Been a long time, can't tell you where to find it in the bible, but it's there.
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3.5 years vs. a lifetime of going door to door.
by tootired2care indid it bug you as a witness that jesus only had to go from door to door for 3.5 years, and he was done; while he demanded that you do it for your whole life without preparing for the morrow?
i just remember a few years back reflecting on the daunting prospect of doing it my whole life if the end didn't come - "sooner rather than later".
what are your thoughts?.
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pontoon
There has to be more to it because they absolutely would not have gone to the door of a gentile, so they must have known whose (Jews) houses they were going to. And don't forget, after Jesus's 3.5 years he had to did a horrible death.
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A Brother Died At Bethel
by MrFreeze ini got a text from my mom when i got into work today saying that a brother i've known for a while had died.
he was a bethelite and they found him dead in his room.
he was the same age as me.
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pontoon
Condolences. What congregation was he assigned to?
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New York State USA meet up for ex-jws for partying,anyone interested?
by witchtowerwitch inlets have some fun,before the big one gets us all ok?.
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pontoon
I'm in the Hudson Valley. Strong possibilty I would come. Need details
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In veiw of the future prospects for the remnant of the 144000 still living,wouldnt you think they would have a greater role in the running of a congregation ?
by smiddy ini just commented on another thread about the 144000 and thought it deserved a thread of it`s own seeing how important their appointment is .. those who are selected to rule with christ jesus in heaven are given immortality.
if you or i were selected to survive armaggedon we would not be given immortality , so obviously they are considered a cut above the rest of humanity.. so my question is ,why doesnt jehovah`s spirit directed organization on earth give these people the respect and dignity that jehovah god is going to bestow on them in the future , while they are yet present on earth , instead of ignoring them , and treating them as a lesser class of person than a pioneer ,ministerial servant, or elder.. and suggesting they may be influenced by prior beleifs or have mental problems doesnt say much for their bible education instruction , after all these are dedicated baptized publishers who are counted as the annointed remnant.. smiddy.
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pontoon
Smiddy, how are you? My aged dad doesn't know that I haven't been to a meeting in two years. I was having a dicussion with him about the remnant, that unless they were GB they had no part in "feeding the sheep." He believed that remnant from all over the world were comunicating with GB as to what the spiritual needs of the flock were. We were locking horns, I had to drop it. Short time later, my dad said to me "by the way, you were right about the remnant not having imput with the GB......" I could see he was a bit confused. I was hoping it was a first crack in his armor. Sad to say it wasn't.
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cowboy films.
by bigmac insome of us uk members of a certain age really enjoy cowboy films.. what was your most favourite cowboy film of all time?.
mine was on tv again today-----.
---- the magnificent seven.
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pontoon
Sierra Madre, not really a cowboy flick, but definately a great classic!
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"Dropping In" at the local coffee shop on Saturday mornings
by Cinciguy74 ini have to admit, i have made it a bit of a habit in the last few weeks to find myself in the local starbucks right about the time that i know the service groups will be stopping for a "quick" break, which usually goes on for about 30 minutes.. as i am not da or df, i make a note to say good morning to them and show them how nice and relaxed i am sitting, slowly enjoying my coffee.
i even make a point to invite them to sit down with me, knowing that it will eat up a bit more of their time.
never a "theocratic" discussion, only about local happenings usually, talking about workouts (i am normally in gym clothes since i was either at the gym or going to the gym after coffee), or just discussing plans for the weekend.
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pontoon
I like it. Your just too cool
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Crisis of Confidence...GB vs. Legal/Support
by Momma-Tossed-Me inthere is a division of confidence amoung the above two bodies.. the gb feels it has no need to worry since they have god's spirit.. the legal/support departments see the writing on the wall or the reality inwhich we live.. someone has to balance this between the two parties inorder to maintain the stability of the wtbts.. it appears at this time the support staff is winning by using the facts concerning the lack of liquidity that the org is experiencing now.. at some point the staff will have to deliver the bad news to the gb that they can no longer cover up the loss of adherents.. hopefully some time soon.. mtm.
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pontoon
The legal, accounts, business offices of Wat. Corp absolutely need the GB and they know it. The GB is the link between the Corporation and the hearts, minds, and most important the POCKETS of the publishers. It's the belief that the GB is in touch with what Jeh wants and requires that makes the whole religion work. If it was legal that decided a change in blood policy was needed, (fractions) it would have to come from the GB. When accountants say to cut the cost of printing it has to appear it was a GB decision, and so it goes. The publishers don't have to think, it's from the GB so it has to be so, aren't we thankful for their direction. Because GB has no new spiritual instruction they harp on dress, education, association,.... giving the appearance they are caring for the flock. If ever the publishers knew who really controlled Wat Corp it would all unravel real fast. Just my opinion.