. . . And he's back!
Andre is in the October '12 public Watchtower; this time with a picture! (page 6)
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Okay I believe the Andre thing now.
by Sharpie inbefore, i was thinking, this whole thing with the character the writing department has must be a coincidence.
they must use other names?.
nope.
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WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....
by flipper in...... words.
knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.
in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.
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Just read the letter again . . . it sounds so right, to keep confidential information, well, confidential.
Yet, I do remember an article where a "good example (name withheld)", who obtained information about a fellow jw from her place of employment in a medical center, felt impelled by her conscience to ask the so-called sinner to confess to the elders, and if this didn't happen, to rat them out.
This behaviour could and should cost her the job. So much for confidentiality! Not important . . unless its important to the WTS.
Mr Flipper has it right, the WT Society does believe that they are superior to the laws of the land - without the least justification.
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WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....
by flipper in...... words.
knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.
in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.
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Hi Mr Flipper,
Is this the letter than SBC quotes here?
From item 14
Handling reports of other crimes: When the elders learn of alleged criminal activity
on the part of one of Jehovah’s Witnesses or someone associated with the congregation as the accused
or the victim, they should immediately call the Legal Department.Just great. Take care of the victim first? no. Make sure the authorities are informed so that justice can be done? not right now.
Much more important to call the legal department!
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-15-2012 WT Study (STRAINED MARRAIGE)
by blondie incomments.
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Perhaps the husband was disfellowshipped for 'unscripturally' demanding a higher bride-price than the unemployed PO's son could afford? Or maybe he was DFd for 'unscripturally' questioning how all the animals could have fit on the ark?
That was a funny thread Billy!
Contrast this with the latest public wt here, where they are trying to demonstrate the wt and the Bible's great respect toward women
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-15-2012 WT Study (STRAINED MARRAIGE)
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Linda,* a zealous Christian and a devoted mother, watched helplessly as her baptized husband unrepentantly
embarked on an unscriptural path and was disfellowshipped. What should a Christian do if his or her marriage bond
seems hopelessly frayed for such a reason?
"for such a reason", eh? If the husband was disfellowshipped for something like questioning doctrine or smoking, is the marriage
necessarily "frayed"? Well yes - because of the wt judgmental attitudes and the need to "give a good witness".
No other reason.
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happy birthday, Nugget!!
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Hello ~ New Here.
by witnomore inalthough i haven't been a witness for over 20 years, it has taken me that long to finally feel brave enough to join another church (aka christendom) and begin researching my past beliefs.
all this research has opened a few old wounds, but mostly liberated me from a lot of quilt.
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Welcome, Witnomore! Research, logical thinking and education are all important to staying out and guilt free.
Best wishes, Retro
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by so confused inthis weekend my husband got a call from his brother stating his family do not want to hang out with us anymore because we make them feel uncomfortable.
i think my husband was a little shocked and did not say much.
i'm not sure if my in laws feel the same way we will find out on friday our usual family dinner day.. so its only tuesday but looks like a productive and better week so far.
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She forgives me for shunning her and told me if i have the chance do it for someone else in need - that is all she asks. She told me it took her years to get over being shunned and leaving this religion. But she has made peace and is happy
So confused, you have a lovely sister! . It's good that you're seeing a therapist. Keep taking care of yourself and your little one(s).
Happy birthday to your hubbie!
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Hi! First Post/Advice On a JW Friend?
by that_girl inlong time lurker, first time poster.
:) i'm not sure if a post this long is allowed as a first post (or if this is even in the right section), but here it goes!.
so while in high school, i became friends with a jw.
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Hi and welcome, that_girl! I'm also a never-jw with some friends and family "in".
My experience has a lot in common with yours. My ex-SIL and I were good friends and I tried to keep the relationship going after she and my brother seperated. At first I got letters with a page of family stuff and 2 pages of preaching (emails were too dangerous to her), then when I began to rebut the preaching, she sent the local jws to call on me.
So began a so-called "Bible study"; again we made no headway. The beliefs were just extreme and no way would I follow the ridiculous question and answer method. After a few months we gave up, and since then, not a word from ex-SIL, although I wrote twice more.
About a year ago the "study" watchtower had an outrageous article about "apostates", calling them mentally diseased, and since then the pressure has continued to keep the faithful afraid of the world and its satanic influence. Your poor friend and her mother are indoctrinated, I'm afraid.
And congrats on your psychology major!
Keep posting and reading; you'll learn a lot about jws here!
All the best, Retro
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Spare the Rod and spoil the child, How did that work for you
by jam inin proverbs there are several verses on the wisdom.
of using the rod for discipline.
the notion that children.
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I copped a few "spankings" and boxes on the ear as a child and was determined it would be different for my kids. Explained this very clearly to my mother and also to my children.
Then when eldest child was four, I overheard her pushing the boundaries with her grandma. Grandma was becoming quite annoyed, and daughter reminded her that smacking was not an option. Grandma replied sweetly "I know dear, but I'm an old lady - and I might forget!
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