Hi BU2B, It's all covered in jgnat's post - I'd just point out that since Gen 1 (animals before humans) and Gen 2 (Adam before animals) are contradictory it's a bit difficult to belive the "Genesis account"
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Plants before insects?
by BU2B inok heres a thought i recently saw, and it floored me!
its something i amazingly never thought of, it seems to be hiding in plain sight.. as we know most if not all plants need insect pollination to live.
without ants, bees, flies etc.. pollinating them, they would not reproduce right?
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JW played me and broke my heart
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Retrovirus
Welcome, New22day!
So sorry to hear your story. You have been through a lot!
It might help you understand to read some of jgnat'sposts, especially those about her life with her jw husband. I'm a never-jw, but the impression I get is that the jw religion supports cognitive dissonance.
I hope that over time you come to understand that you had a lucky escape. A guy who can simultaneously lie to his partner and his religious mentors can bring you nothing but trouble.
As Mrs Jones said, avoid any further communication with him. Keep busy with whatever you enjoy - or used to enjoy.
Wishing you better times, Retro
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Contributions For Local KH VS. World Wide Work
by turtleturtle inseriously, if i am going to stay a jw for now, is there anything wrong with donating all for local kindom hall purposes, and simply not donate to the world wide work (wt)?
i mean, won't the local money just go to the kingdom hall expenses (among some other expenses)?
i'm telling you right now, the wt ain't getting my $ until things change!.
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A watcher, perhaps Anais and Sapphira thought they too had a "gentlemans agreement" with YHWH?
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48 hours of "what if" until I speak with my therapist
by OccupyJehovahsWitnesses inhey everybody,.
so i just made an appointment with my therapist (these days i really only see someone when something specific comes up), as i need to discuss the statue of limitations in my state for child sex abuse cases.. i've actually been doing some preliminary work on a book that i'm writing, at the recommendation of a different (previous) therapist and in so doing have been reading the conti transcripts.
i must say, she is quite the inspiration.
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Waiting for an appointment is always stressful, OJW!
Welcome, and we'll be thinking of you!
Retro
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Calling all Aussies and Kiwis
by SkyGreen inif u don't mind saying if u r kiwi or aussie, and basic info like m/f, how long in, how long out, or if fading like me.. im female i live in aussie but born in nz fading the last few months.
know it ain't the truth, but am married with little kids and closest family and friends all in.
trying the slow fade and hoping my husband will do the same... being very gentle with him... .
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Retrovirus
Hi SkyGreen,
I'm a never-jw (friends and family in, "studied" for a year or so but it didn't 'take'). I'm female and in the Melbourne area; raised my children as a single parent. Welcome and good for you to have the courage to question. Your children will thank you for it
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Celebrating Christmas?????
by DATA-DOG ini am just curious, and not judging.
if you are a christian and you know that december 25th is not jesus' birthday, and may have pagan roots, then why celebrate it?
i was raised a dub as most of you know, and have learned the ttatt so i know how wrong they are about a lot.
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It's a cultural thing. As for pagan roots - so what? JWs arbitrarily allow some (wedding rings, pinatas) and chuck a fit over others.
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are wt writers inept or trying to repel clear thinkers?
by prologos inin the "what does the bible really teach" book, an attempt is made to illustrate the nature of satans challenge, as it explains suffering allowed to prove jehoahs' souvereignty.
on page 110 is given the illustration of a bright kid stepping up to the blackboard to show the elderly teacher (probably head of the teacher union chapter) * a more elegant way to solve those equations.
wt equates that situation to satans challenge.
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Retrovirus
The "classroom explanation" of Satan's rebellion was sent to me in a letter from my SIL. When she arranged for a local cong to contact me about t "Bible" "study" (without asking me first ) I realised it was from the Really Teach book.
I saw it as one of the many cues that to be a jw, you may not challenge authority. The teacher always knows best!
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FREE Home Bible Study?!?!?
by Christ Alone inso i finally took a deep breath and watched the annual meeting report.
i found a little nugget before the "new light" discussion began.
there was a report about the "public preaching" that was taking place in manhattan.
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Retrovirus
Perhaps a kinder interpretation would be that Ethos is hindered by the jw black and white thinking. you know: all other churches are baad, seen one; seen them all. Only wt is different.
Ethos, please use the posting limitation to your advantage and read more than you write :)
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Meeting with my family doctor...
by NVR2L8 ini needed a prescription renewed and found out my old doc retired...met my new doc and took this opportunity to update my medical record...removed the no blood transfusion clause from my file.
i told the doctor that inconsistencies within my church's doctrines made it impossible for me to put my life at risk for no valid reason.
after throwing out my medical directive card, amending my medical record is another step toward totally breaking free from the cult.
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Retrovirus
Great decision!
I remember the article encouraging JW employees to rat out confidential information - an absolute disgrace! Hopefully the JW nurse won't check the records - or at least show enough sense to keep her job.
Retro
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A spin off of the athiest thread
by trujw inhas anyone thought there is a god but he is not perfect.
maybe he is flawed not all knowing and looks at us the same as i look at ants?
people are either black or white.
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If it isn't 'perfect', then what makes it [deity or 'god' or 'goddess' ] think that it is worthy of worship? And if it is perfect, is that a reason to worship it? Would it need worship?