I saw that video too, and they do make some compelling arguments.
I’m on the fence about the theory, though… an equal amount of decisions the Org has made suggest they’re anxious to keep the membership.
like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
I saw that video too, and they do make some compelling arguments.
I’m on the fence about the theory, though… an equal amount of decisions the Org has made suggest they’re anxious to keep the membership.
read this relevant message on reddit, about current elders.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1eb0ees/the_changes_are_affecting_elders_the_hardest_in/.
spot on, isn't it?.
gorby.
The older hardline stances have estranged all the thoughtful, conscientious ones…
…and lightening up on those stances is alienating the old guard who busted their humps enforcing them.
The irony’s thick enough to choke an alligator. 😏
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
Both.
a) The revelation deeply undermines their claim of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”, which the WT leadership would probably - and ironically - sell their souls to keep (since, at its core, it’s the only real incentive left to even be a Jehovah’s Witness), and…
b) …the worse it looks, the more their charity status is placed at risk. Western governments take a dim view of organizations using federal funds to - ultimately - cover up criminal activity (especially if said governments aren’t getting a cut of any profits), or if dealing with the human fallout of said organizations’ actions start to cost more than it’s worth.
The first would cause membership hemorrhage (arguably already happening, if recent convention pics are any indication), which is super-embarrassing and puts the lie to their claims of constant growth.
The second could actually result in insolvency, since - near as we can figure - the Org’s business model is almost completely dependent on its tax-exemption (not to mention that they’d suddenly be on the hook for the property taxes on hundreds of millions worth of real estate).
perhaps you considering joining the wt cult - here is a concise list of why you should not.. what the watchtower demands of you:.
1.complete obedience to them.. 2. be willing to lose your life for zany blood teachings.. 3.put other cult members before your real family.. 4.refusal to let you leave their religion when the penny drops it's a cult.. 6.accept that they can backtrack and change any of their flip flop teachings at any time.. 7. you can't change your mind about their teachings without harsh discipline,.
8. insistence that you humbly and quickly apologise for your mistakes and errors.. 9.gladly accept they will never be apologising for any of their mistakes or errors of judgement.. 10.accept that even ones who follow and believe in the bible, but not the governing body are worthy of destruction.. please feel free to add more..
You may feel intellectually hamstrung.
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
joey jojo - “…a Christian death metal video, featuring an A.I. version of Stephen Lett…”
I totally wanna see that now. 😃
'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
the full report is here.. https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/.
the jw case study is here.. https://www.abuseincare.org.nz/reports/whanaketia/case-studies/case-study-jehovahs-witnesses/executive-summary/.
you can read it in full from these links.
Echoes the ARC conclusions almost word-for-word.
“…They seem to have just given it more publicity…”
Clearly, they’ve never heard of the Streisand Effect. 😏
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
Biahi - “When the GB disappears, we need to keep a sharp eye on either the Cayman Islands, or countries with no extradition to the US.”
This.
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
Of course they’ll be raptured taken away to heaven before the shit hits the fan.
How else are Top-Shelf Tony and Letto the Clown gonna exact their righteous fury against all the “apostates” who dared to think they might be weird, crazy, or just plain wrong?
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
You gotta wonder…
…just how damning are the conclusions?
(rhetorical question, obv)