Sea Breeze - “…This level of delusion can't be fixed.”
Sums it up pretty well.
Uncle Tony might be privately reassessing since he was shown the door, but that’s probably about it.
😏
'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
Sea Breeze - “…This level of delusion can't be fixed.”
Sums it up pretty well.
Uncle Tony might be privately reassessing since he was shown the door, but that’s probably about it.
😏
'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
I can’t recall them ever even saying that.
🤨
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
A couple weeks back, someone here joked that before too long, the Memorial service would just consist of watching a live feed of the GB exclusively partaking.
It wasn’t meant seriously, but the way things’ve been going, it doesn’t sound all that weird.
😏
https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/testemunhas-de-jeova-punicao-pedofilos.
note: you can easily have google translate this excellent article from portuguese into english.
it's a very long article to read and i'm only posting a small part of it in english.
One thing you can always count on…
…tell the Org they’re wrong about something really big…
…and they’ll double down on it like a lifelong gambling addict in a Vegas casino.
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
NotFormer - “…Do the GB, whose egos are increasingly more on display as they seek out more attention from the adoring JWs, strike you as the types who would happily disappear from the public eye?”
“Happily”? No.
But like I said a couple days back in another thread…
…they’d find it preferable to hanging around and actually facing the humiliations of further decline, increased legal losses, and insolvency (and make no mistake, they would absolutely find those things humiliating).
like the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
I saw that video too, and they do make some compelling arguments.
I’m on the fence about the theory, though… an equal amount of decisions the Org has made suggest they’re anxious to keep the membership.
read this relevant message on reddit, about current elders.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1eb0ees/the_changes_are_affecting_elders_the_hardest_in/.
spot on, isn't it?.
gorby.
The older hardline stances have estranged all the thoughtful, conscientious ones…
…and lightening up on those stances is alienating the old guard who busted their humps enforcing them.
The irony’s thick enough to choke an alligator. 😏
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
Both.
a) The revelation deeply undermines their claim of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”, which the WT leadership would probably - and ironically - sell their souls to keep (since, at its core, it’s the only real incentive left to even be a Jehovah’s Witness), and…
b) …the worse it looks, the more their charity status is placed at risk. Western governments take a dim view of organizations using federal funds to - ultimately - cover up criminal activity (especially if said governments aren’t getting a cut of any profits), or if dealing with the human fallout of said organizations’ actions start to cost more than it’s worth.
The first would cause membership hemorrhage (arguably already happening, if recent convention pics are any indication), which is super-embarrassing and puts the lie to their claims of constant growth.
The second could actually result in insolvency, since - near as we can figure - the Org’s business model is almost completely dependent on its tax-exemption (not to mention that they’d suddenly be on the hook for the property taxes on hundreds of millions worth of real estate).
perhaps you considering joining the wt cult - here is a concise list of why you should not.. what the watchtower demands of you:.
1.complete obedience to them.. 2. be willing to lose your life for zany blood teachings.. 3.put other cult members before your real family.. 4.refusal to let you leave their religion when the penny drops it's a cult.. 6.accept that they can backtrack and change any of their flip flop teachings at any time.. 7. you can't change your mind about their teachings without harsh discipline,.
8. insistence that you humbly and quickly apologise for your mistakes and errors.. 9.gladly accept they will never be apologising for any of their mistakes or errors of judgement.. 10.accept that even ones who follow and believe in the bible, but not the governing body are worthy of destruction.. please feel free to add more..
You may feel intellectually hamstrung.
did i misinterpret something or read something wrong?.
did the gb say recently that they are to be dead or pulled out of earthly existence before the great tribulation?.
if so, can someone point me to jw literature or a thread on this topic?.
joey jojo - “…a Christian death metal video, featuring an A.I. version of Stephen Lett…”
I totally wanna see that now. 😃