ziddina - "Thanks, Vidiot. I'm recovering from her loss at this time, but I'm also keeping my eyes open. If a scruffy-looking stray should happen to cross my path, right now - well, it won't be pretty..."
No sweat.
Hang in there, yeah?
(i'm not sure this is the correct sub-heading, but - since i was her 'doggie-mommie'...).
this is in tribute to the best doggie weve ever had, sheeba.
i first met sheeba in the autumn of 1997. id been driving past the local countys animal shelter the dog pound for several years.
ziddina - "Thanks, Vidiot. I'm recovering from her loss at this time, but I'm also keeping my eyes open. If a scruffy-looking stray should happen to cross my path, right now - well, it won't be pretty..."
No sweat.
Hang in there, yeah?
the judge must be spinning in his grave.
even fred franz would be upset.. the governing body's reaction to organizational decay is quiet compromise: 70 hours for pioneers, cut the magazines, dump the bookstudy, cut literature, layoff bethelites, overlook porn and more.. they must know that their trumped up '8 million' witlesses is inflated by fakes, slackers and elders who serve because they don't want to lose their families, don't you think?.
why not create a test, a trial..... a doctrinal change that trims the organization down to a smaller number of loyal fanatics who open their wallets more easily?.
metatron - "Why not create a test, a trial..... a doctrinal change that trims the Organization down to a smaller number of loyal fanatics who open their wallets more easily?"
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239770/2/Well-I-talked-with-two-active-JWs-about-the-latest-understanding-of-the-F-DS (last post I made on the page)
it starts on uk channel more 4 on monday.
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in the trailer dawkins asks about morality, death etc in a world that has moved beyond religious belief..
I'd heard all about what a grade-A prick the guy was supposed to be, but when I read "The Greatest Show on Earth", I never even once got that impression.
BTW; like him, the prospect of the Religious Right taking over the US government disturbs my sleep.
(i'm not sure this is the correct sub-heading, but - since i was her 'doggie-mommie'...).
this is in tribute to the best doggie weve ever had, sheeba.
i first met sheeba in the autumn of 1997. id been driving past the local countys animal shelter the dog pound for several years.
I've lost 2 dogs over the course of my life.
First one was more my Dad's, but the second was all mine, and even though it's been a few years, I still catch myself missing her from time to time.
The first year or so, I'd swear I could hear claws clicking on the kitchen floor when I was in the next room over, or I'd see her curled up in her favorite corner of the sofa out of the corner of my eye as I'd walk past.
It takes a while, but it does get better.
You may not want to hear this right now, but eventually, you will need another furry family member. It's the only way to really fill the hole.
And that'll be OK.
this is another fine spiritual gem from the january 2013 study edition.. .
as the great tribulation nears, we do not want to be plagued with such anxious thoughts as these:'could i have done more in god's service?
didn't i pioneer when i had the opportunity?
jgnat - "...one of Satan's Snares (tm) is to load people down with excessive guilt. The cure? Confess to the elders."
Oh definately. Add embarrassment and self-conciousness to the guilt. There's a solution.
Seriously, though, I have to say that when I was in a JC a long time ago (hell, it takes an effort to even remember it, these days), the elders who conducted it were very nice and I really appreciated it at the time. Genuine shepherds; they went out of their way to be compassionate and specifically told me not to let myself be consumed with guilt or embarrassment.
Looking back at all the "special needs" talks given back in the 90s, I realize now that it was because my little thing was pretty much happening all over, all the time. I was just really shitty at reading between the lines back then.
Huh. Just realized, all 3 of those guys have passed away over the past couple decades...
so this 70 something yr old brother, ex bethelite, ex spec pioneer, current pioneer with over 50 yrs of full time service is lamenting he might have to step down as an elder because he is computer ignorant.
i guess the org uses the internet to communicate with elders and having internet access is required of elders.
anyway he's going to dunkin donuts with his wife and he sees free wifi.
Theocratic Sedition - "The old man paroled on Shawshank Redemption comes to mind when I think of older ones trying to keep up in todays society."
Aw man, that scene always puts a lump in my throat. Like, seriously.
Theocratic Sedition - "I dont like to laugh at them too much because the same dog that bit them is gonna bite me someday too."
Yeah, I ain't gonna have no use for that newfangled "ver-too-all reality" horsepucky myselfs...
(There, I feel a little better, now.)
...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?
and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?
do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?
Outlaw, you're the man.
BTW, since my efforts are for me and mine, no.
I never doubt my efforts are futile.
see: http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9002813 (kingsport, tn).
ministers from 5 east tennessee jehovah's witness congregations aboard plane.
published 09/02/2007 by jeff bobo .
johnny cip - "...my dad knows i can't control my self..."
And now all of us know it, too.
Thanks for that.
at today's special assembly in natick ma, bro brown payne annouced to the audience that serena williams was disciplined by her local elders for her swearing escapade on tv.. saying: "can jehovah's witnesses swear like that on tv?
" then he told the audience that she was "disciplined" by the elders of the congregation she's a publisher in.. doesn't this smack of revealing the private business of another person?
the most the local elders could have said was "a matter concerning serena williams has been handled by the elder body".
Satanus - "If she resists the ass smack, then she should be tied up, first."
She can tie me up and smack my ass anytime...
i have been going to another church now for quite a while, the elders do know this and confirmed this when they visited me over something else.
however i have no idea if i have been disfellowshipped or not, should i call them and find out, or just let it go?
i cant really say that it doesn't bother me, because i would like to know.
Pop quiz, hotshot...