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  Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

  by TheStumbler in

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  i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

  i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

  last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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  Calling Spade out of phylogenetics

  by bohm in

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  spade wrote on this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/206699/3/the-gentile-times-reconsidered.

  although phylogenetic trees produced on the basis of sequenced genes or genomic data in different species can provide evolutionary insight, they have important limitations.

  they do not necessarily accurately represent the species evolutionary history.the data on which they are based is noisy; the analysis can be confounded by horizontal gene transfer, hybridisation between species that were not nearest neighbors on the tree before hybridisation takes place, convergent evolution, and conserved sequences.. i would characterize myself as someone with more than a working knowledge in this field, given i have developed my own algorithm for doing something similar.

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  'Does your hope rest in science or the Bible and other false dichotomies' Talk Outline

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this one is a bit similar to my previous thread about armagheddon.. i plan to send this email to a jw (elder) close family member and would like to get it screened by the jwn hivemind before hand for corrections and suggestions.. the background to this is that in dec 2010 i asked two jw family members to find out for me if the 7,000 creative day doctrine was still the orgs official position, and if it was dropped why.

  i provided references to how since the 1980's the org only refers to the creative days as being 'thousands' of years long which is consistent with 7,000 years and no official retraction or new light on the matter was made.. last week i emailed them to see if they had looked into it and, going by the response, i think they probably just sat on it.. i emailed and asked them that if i wrote a letter to the organisation, would they send it on my behalf, as a letter sent by an elder would more likely to get a response.

  so, here's my reply:.

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  Some observations from the KM Elder School I wanted to share with you.

  by miseryloveselders in

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  my school was a couple weeks back, and it was interesting to a degree.

  to be honest with you, it reminded me of a police crime scene investigation with yellow tape.

  what i mean is, in one respect it was business as usual.

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  just n from bethel why you curse me?

  by JunkYardDog in

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  2. friends

  i just spent about 45 minutes talking to this nice guy jw that became a jw about 10 years ago at the age 40. had a very interesting talk about wt history/ present truth.

  the best part was what the wts lied to him about.

  i get the feeling he will look up some of the stuff.

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  Awake 1980 claims watching "The Exorcist 1 or 2 caused Demonic attacks and child murders!!

  by Witness 007 in

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  "the exorcist"voted "the scariest movie of all time" it has been seen by hundreds of millions of people around the world.

  however, awake writers from 1980 had their own "scientific" views of the movie and it's sequel.. awake 1980 12/8 p.11 ".....many reports are on file {where?

  } of the adverse effects it had on many who saw it.

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  Its Just a Theory NOT ABOUT EVOLUTION

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ok and i'm serious, please no rabid flame war allowed on this thread.

  please, they are not helpful at all.

  i am posting this link to an article, apparently written in all sincerity, that insists that true science supports a geocentric universe and denounces all supposed evidence for the earth turning and revolving as just "theory".

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  Quotes from 2010 Watchtower publications

  by wannabefree in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this magazine has long been used by "the faithful and discreet slave" as the primary channel for dispensing increased light.

  (matt.

  24:45) for example, consider our understanding of those who make up "this generation" mentioned by jesus.

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  Please reccommend older Watchtower publciations for stumbling purposes

  by TheStumbler in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first time poster here but i've been lurking a while.. i have a question that i was hoping some of the watchtower historians might be able to answer.

  if a witness was willing to read some of the organisation's older publications, what books would you get them to read and how do i get these books?.

  my family are witnesses and my father is an elder.

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  Public Talk Outlines

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been collecting the public talk outlines.

  i have almost all of them but there are a few missing.

  i have tiles for some but just numbers for others.

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