We are here for you if you need and want to talk about it.
Much love to you.
she wraps me in her cold embrace,.
a hold that will not let go .
.. i welcome her with half a heart, .
We are here for you if you need and want to talk about it.
Much love to you.
i changed all names.
dear sister,.
i am writing you this because i have never been very good at expressing myself in person.
I think your letter was loving and respectful. Maybe you can help him instead of him helping you!
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Once you tell a lie, you have to keep telling lies to cover the first one up. This particular lie was such a doozie, they will never be able to recover.
Ethos, my dear, face the facts. There is no defense for what the Watchtower Society has done. They have falsely prophesied, they have added there own interpretation to the Bible and made their writings equal to the scriptures. They are condemned by their own words and actions. They are not from God and never were.
it's official!
from the jw.org website:.
november 9, 2012. annual meeting report .
They just admitted that they have been teaching falsehood for the past hundred years.
would you have not taken a blood transfusion or a transplant because the gb said it was bad?.
would you have imitated the jws in concentration camps and died for your beliefs?.
Yes, I would have died and I would have sent my child to her death and let my other family members die. I would have done it unquestionably.
i'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.
i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.
but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.
Keep this going, folks...this thread makes for delightful reading. Thanks to all posters.
june 22, 2000 awake on propaganda.
"by clever and persevering use of propaganda even heaven can be represented as hell to the people, and conversely the most wretched life as paradise.
" adolf hitler, mein kampf.".
They labeled themselves as propgandist.
i am infp.. some former witnesses in my hometown had a meetup last night...alas, only four of us.
but it turned out we had an infp(me), two infjs, and an enfp.
therefore, it turned out we were all idealists.
ESTJ here.
i'd like extend a greeting to all members of jwn.
i've been a lurking by-stander of this forum for approximately 6 months.
i think this forum's best moments can be attributed to the involvement of actual jw's in doctrinaire discussions and to heated (though not always dialectic) debates.
Welcome Ethos.
This is a new beginning for you. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and attended regulary since I was a wee babe. I am now 58 and have been out for 2 years.
Since joining this forum, I have learned more about what Jehovah's Witnesses teach and have taught in the past than I could ever have imagined. I thought I knew my religion. What a shock to learn all the things I didn't know regarding all the doctrinal flip flops, lies and rewritten history.
Get ready for a wild ride and to make genuine friends. Hope you enjoy this forum as much as we do.