No..not a local needs part. It was a part on the service meeting on donations we had at the latter part of 2011. It may have been part of a question box. They gave an example about how some woman dropped in a valuable gold coin in the contribution box at the district convention and the brothers didn't know what to do with it. So in the part, the society recommended that if anyone has gold they wish to donate, to send it to them in a package and they will be able to get a better price for it than we would if we sold it at a local gold buyer. I'll search thru it all and find it when i get home. If someone beats me too it..awesome.
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KH and Gold Scam part 2
by iamwhoiam inat our hall..we were given a 0% loan for remodel as long as we paid it back in a very short period of time.
and even though the building has long been paid for by the congregation and yet our reserves were low, inorder to get that loan, we were to turn over hall ownership to the society.
since the congregation had to vote on it, and no one is going to raise thier hand against, it got passed.
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KH and Gold Scam part 2
by iamwhoiam inat our hall..we were given a 0% loan for remodel as long as we paid it back in a very short period of time.
and even though the building has long been paid for by the congregation and yet our reserves were low, inorder to get that loan, we were to turn over hall ownership to the society.
since the congregation had to vote on it, and no one is going to raise thier hand against, it got passed.
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At our hall..we were given a 0% loan for remodel as long as we paid it back in a very short period of time. And even though the building has long been paid for by the congregation and yet our reserves were low, inorder to get that loan, we were to turn over hall ownership to the society. Since the congregation had to vote on it, and no one is going to raise thier hand against, it got passed. I notice some of the elders know this is crap since the majority of them didn't raise thier hand fore or against. The thing is, people just don't think about it..its a decision made on a whim. Group dynamic type stuff i think. Also, we were asked for a one time donation to the congregation that would help pay for atleast 50% of the loan up front so it could be paid off quicker. After a couple months, we raised the amount needed and even had a surplus. Well, guess what happened to the surplus. The elders sent it off as an extra donation on behalf of our congregation...sneaky choice of words after it was announced. The surplus did not go to our loan payment. The congregation is relatively poor as it is..i think the society is crossing the line.
Also, as a side note. I'm sure all people are aware of the part we had at the meeting on the donating of gold. I find it funny that they would have a complete part on this (giving us the process on how to go about it) being that the price of gold has been reaching all time highs for the last few years.
Conclusion...the WT is a strong publishing and real estate business that also dabbles in gold.
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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At our hall..we were given a 0% loan for remodel as long as we paid it back in a very short period of time. And even though the building has long been paid for by the congregation and yet our reserves were low, inorder to get that loan, we were to turn over hall ownership to the society. Since the congregation had to vote on it, and no one is going to raise thier hand against, it got passed. I notice some of the elders know this is crap since the majority of them didn't raise thier hand fore or against. The thing is, people just don't think about it..its a decision made on a whim. Group dynamic type stuff i think. Also, we were asked for a one time donation to the congregation that would help pay for atleast 50% of the loan up front so it could be paid off quicker. After a couple months, we raised the amount needed and even had a surplus. Well, guess what happened to the surplus. The elders sent it off as an extra donation on behalf of our congregation...sneaky choice of words after it was announced. The surplus did not go to our loan payment. The congregation is relatively poor as it is..i think the society is crossing the line.
Also, as a side note. I'm sure all people are aware of the part we had at the meeting on the donating of gold. I find it funny that they would have a complete part on this (giving us the process on how to go about it) being that the price of gold has been reaching all time highs for the last few years.
Conclusion...the WT is a strong publishing, real estate, and precious metal business.
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If the WT dumped 1914 tommorow ...?
by faithfulslavedriver inthis is my first post here.
i've been a lurker for awhile but had no particular desire to join until the other day.. anyways, do you think that if wt decided to face the fact that 607-1914 is an indefensible pile of crap that has been artificially kept steaming for way too long, would it really kick off a mass exodus or anything?
in the short term the fds/gb might lose some authority, but they are hemorrhaging people anyways keeping it around (607 started me on the road to this place).. if wt stopped talking about 1914 for awhile then later killed it, blaming it on "further research" or something, and acknowledged some uncertainty in 607/587, i really doubt that very many of the r&f would think much about it.
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I hope they factored in Leap Year for thier calculations. :p
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..thoughts???
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Help! Strange request for info I heard in a Recorded (gasp!) Talk.
by PaintedToeNail ini heard a recording of a talk by a bro.
who's topic was something to the effect of 'coincidences in the history of wtbts and jehovah's direction'.
i believe it was an american bro., who claimed that a woman who owned a mansion in atlanta, at the time of general sherman's march to the sea, and subsequent burning of atlanta, had her mansion saved.
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iamwhoiam
I heard this exact same example in a talk i heard last year...exactly like you just described it.
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What Would Andre Do?
This would make one hell of a bracelet.
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Prelude to a disfellowshipping
by rory-ks ini was 25 years a congregation member; ten years an elder; all told, up to 18 years an appointed man; a decade or so as a full-time minister; assembly speaker, with the pinnacle giving the public discourse at a district convention.. .
i stopped being an active member of the congregation in november 2010, but it had been brewing for several years, with the customary gradual drifting away - all the necessary mental gymnastics as my spiritual views changed and doubts set in; quitting the theocratic ministry school; ceasing to answer; sitting quietly off to the side.
i think the straw that broke the camels back was when family worship inevitably became family worship.
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The Mormons have a better idea. They have "Family Game" Night
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My Son's Wisdom
by TOTH inmy youngest son is now in college and while he has always had an extraordinary ability to call it like it is, he is now even more likely to mouth off.
he is honing his deductive reasoning and objective thinking skills very nicely and with his "don't give a shit attitude" when it comes to pointing out hypocrisy, well he is just a walking bs caller...especially around the jw's.. so we were talking this evening about some stuff that used to be taught in the hall back when i was a kid.
no college because young people would never grow old in this system.
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I played a video of GB member Franz actually saying the words that the end of 1975 would usher in the destruction of babylon the Great ad the Great tribulation and then by the beginning of 1976 PARADISE would be here. He shook his head and said that it is impossible to understand how anyone still trusts a single word the wt prints.
Do you or anyone else have a link to this video?
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striking similarity to JW
by inbetween inever heard of this church ?.
example: http://rcg.org/articles/abcc.html.
very similar reasoning to jw,...
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its a cookie cutter business
