The last days of the Watchtower for me were when I decided I heard enough at the 2010 DC! Deconstruction of the cult is done one person at a time.
NVR2L8
Posts by NVR2L8
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49The 'Last days' of the Watchtower Society - any truth in this?
by callitquits76 ini have heard this said a lot lately.
is it wishful thinking?
6 screens of the wt has this as their website banner but that website is like a tabloid newspaper..
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Born in, Faded, want to date but......
by SearchingForMe inborn a dub.
never dated while in because i "wasn't ready for marriage", haven't dated since fade because i really don't want to burden my girlfriend with the bull@#% of dating me while i still have to put up a facade of being "just inactive" to my family so they won't shun me.. this sucks.
i want to be happy.
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SFM,
Like you I am inactive and until now I have stayed under the radar, but I know the day is coming where I will have to take a stand. In my case this will affect my relationship with my wife, my son and daughter in law, my grand-children, my mother, my brother and my sister...I risk loosing it all for something all of them may never experience - freedom to think yourself, to reason and to act according to your own conscience. You must decide for yourself if this is a price too high to pay. As for me, it is a question of life or death - I felt that I'd be better off dead than to continue serving the WTS for the rest of my life, or worse, forever...so I stopped. My life is far from perfect and people around me are sad and they say that they miss me at the meetings...at least that tell my wife...but I don't miss their conditional love.
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A Lurker taking a step out of the shadows
by AlmightyDog ini have been lurking on this site and others for a couple of years now, and i feel it is time to step out and say "hello!
" when i first began investigating my beliefs, it was innocent enough.
i had been reading an article on scientology, thinking; "wow, these people are just plain nuts!!!
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AlmightyD,
Your story soundS exactly like mine and your wife is reacting the same way as my wife. I remember when I posted my story a few weeks back several posters told me to be the best husband I can be...as Mamalove states above here. After a long period of silence, we have started to talk and laugh again. When I was active my wife often accused me of talking down to her and often being in a bad mood. Since I am out she noticed that I no longer have mood swings and I am more relaxed and happy. I no longer feel the urge to reajust anyone who doesn't perfectly live according to WT code of conduct. So AD give it time and keep the hope that your wife will figure it out so your whole familiy can enjoy a normal and happy life.
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Please, Everybody, Read This!
by snowbird inthat is, if you haven't already.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/206133/1/why-i-eventually-left.
thanks.. syl.
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I quit!
This was also happening in my sister's congregation. This elder's wife wore ankle lenght skirts and high collar tops so he expected all sisters to imitate her. One time he confronted my sister about a trivial issue, but she replied that she didn't marry not to have to take orders from a husband...and that she wasn't about to take orders from him. She also noticed that when he spoke with sisters he was always looking at their chest, so one time my sister told him: look at me in the eyes when I talk to you! I don't have to tell you that this guy was staying away from my sister if he didn't want to be put in his place.
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Did you ever get stumped in the ministry?
by NewChapter ini got into a tiny discussion with a return visit about the cross.
i confidently informed her that the cross was a pagan symbol not used by christians.
the romans were pagans, so they used a pagan symbol.
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A few years back I was going door to door with my wife and we ran into a couple who knew their bible very well. With their King James version in hand they started asking us how we understood specific scriptures - one of them was where it is said that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega - they asked how could this apply to both Jesus and God? The couple read several other scriptures that stomped us. During all that time my wife had been listening quietly, so they started asking her some questions! She couldn't answer any of them which was no surprise to me because she is a typical JW wife who follows the lead of her husband. So I said I would do research in our publications and would return with another brother and we could sit down and answer their questions...They said that they would only accept reasoning from the Bible and not from our publications and the householder insisted that I returned with my wife. I said OK...then the man said that I wouldn't return like every other JW before. I did some research and the answers I found were not clearly supported by the bible. Without the WT publications I would have to agree with what this couple...so as he predicted I never returned. This call came back to my mind when I started finding out about the "truth"...how people in our territory knew way more than us about the bible without the help of "the faithful and discreet slave".
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so oompa got df'd this week...
by oompa inno call to invite me to a committee meeting...no notification of deciding i should be df'd....no telling my jw wife of the announcement...not a chance to appeal what i did not even know what was going on...my mini-serve son is devasted....he even researched it....told me to go to page 153-154 of the od book...never heard of it but it is a green hardback given to all who are to be baptized.
wow...the elders broke every rule in this book as to my case.... i have no respect for these men that can take away your jw family without even telling you they are going to.
my jw son has now begged me to meet with my committee...even though there is prob zero chance they can reverse the decision...that chance is from when they let you know...and you have to appeal by letter within 7 days (i cant make this stuff up!!
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oompa,
There was a time where I would have refused any type of treatment involving blood or blood fractions. My own father almost died after being hit by a car and he was hailed has a hero for fighting off doctors that were trying to give him blood. Fortunately for us - his 4 children - he survived. But following the latest changes if the WT blood policy I realized that JWs no longer abstain from blood...every thing is based on a technicalilty to avoid any legal action against the WT. I have thrown my medical directive "suicide" card away and if I were to be involved in a medical emergency I would want the doctors to do all they can to save my life. If this means that I will be automatically D'ad I will accept to pay that price for life.
Oompa, these "spritual men" have to keep the congregation free from rebels like you and they no longer want you to play their game cause you broke their rules...just concentrate on getting better to resume a full and happy life. Who knows, this event may be what your family needed to see the "truth" for what it is.
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As an Ex-JW (or whatever you are) Tell Us Your Core Hope / Dream / Wish
by OnTheWayOut inwhat i ask is for some specifics.
it helps to say it, type it, get it off your chest.
read mine and maybe you will have a good idea what i mean.. i hope that i get my wife out of the jw's by all of the positive reinforcement i have given her to be an independent thinker.
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I hope that my wife opens her mind and allows me to explain why I can no longer believe in man-made doctrines. I miss being with her when she goes to the meetings and I know that we could spend that time in a much more enjoyable way. We also have a son who is married and they have 2 children. Him and his wife are unbaptized and I hope they stay that way until they too come to realize the futility of dedicating themselves to a publish empire. I want my grand children to live normal lives, without the fear of Armageddon, I want them to get an education and use their potential to the fullest. As far as my mother, sister or brother...the cult is all they talk about, it is their whole life...I wish them happiness and everlasting life in paradise.
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Wilfried:
...in English for the benefit of all...
In another post you said that you live in France, so I would like to know if there were any repercussions following the Swiss TV program on JW with Roberto Distefano or following the demonstration in Iltaly against shunning?
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Content is King- Why the Meetings Fail
by LostGeneration inone of the big sayings for those that run websites is that "content is king" it makes perfect sense, as sites like this one have entertaining content for the targeted audience.
even better, more content is added everyday bringing users back repeatedly.
poptular tv shows and movies are loved because they entertain customers for a low cost or free.. on the other hand, you have the content provided by the watchtower bible and tract society, delivered though the pages of the watchtower and through weekly meetings.
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Room 215:
Good analogy. The first thing that came to my mind was McDonald's...people keep on going back to eat the very same meal...all they need is to fill their stomach and it doesn't matter if the food isn't good for their health. How many times have we been told that humans were created with a "spritual appetite" and the WT is there to fill it with their happy meal.
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Content is King- Why the Meetings Fail
by LostGeneration inone of the big sayings for those that run websites is that "content is king" it makes perfect sense, as sites like this one have entertaining content for the targeted audience.
even better, more content is added everyday bringing users back repeatedly.
poptular tv shows and movies are loved because they entertain customers for a low cost or free.. on the other hand, you have the content provided by the watchtower bible and tract society, delivered though the pages of the watchtower and through weekly meetings.
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The format of the meetings and assemblies has been changed to keep the attention of those attending. The week night meeting is like speed dating - more subjects are discussed in shorter parts...once it's all said and done another painless night as gone by and the brainwash is maintained...until the next session. The only meaningfull meeting we ever had was the bookstudy in private homes where some would dare express their true beliefs during or after the meeting. My guess is that this is one of the reason this meeting was cancelled.