Prior to a CO's two elders came to visit me. I was quite surprised because it was almost a year since I completely stopped going to the meetings and this was their first attempt to contact me. Having been a MS who gave public talks, cared for the accounts and conducted a book study, alarm bells msut have rang when I decided to step down a few months before completely vanishing. For 10 months there was not a single phone call or attempt to contact me. So they rang the door bell and when I opened the door they moved forward as to enter, but I walked out of the door and kept them on the porch. The asked about how I was doing and the usual small talk but I could tell why they were there in their suits and bible in hand. Then they asked what they could do to have me come back to the meetings. I replied that I knew their phone numbers and the location of the KHall...but at this time I needed to be left alone. They said they understood and then hugged me and shook my hand and left. My wife goes to the meetings and I guess she hasn't shared with them the reasons I gave her...otherwise they would be all over me. If they return again, I will ask them to respect my request to be left alone.
Posts by NVR2L8
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27Dreaded elder's visit come and gone.
by Vidqun inthe dreaded elder's visit has come and gone.
this is a condensed version.
e=elder; v=vidqun.. v: i believe god has withdrawn his spirit from the leadership and congs of jws because of all the bad things happening.
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Dreaded elder's visit come and gone.
by Vidqun inthe dreaded elder's visit has come and gone.
this is a condensed version.
e=elder; v=vidqun.. v: i believe god has withdrawn his spirit from the leadership and congs of jws because of all the bad things happening.
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NVR2L8
This elder will report how his visit with you went to the elder body...and out of concern for your spiritual well-being they will arrange another visit. This time they will try to win you over...and if they don't succeed, they will now have to take measures to protect the congregation against negative influences by isolating you...This is why I completely refuse to tell anyone why I no longer attend meetings. In fact I avoid speaking to any JWs as much as possible. I don't personally care about being disfellowshipped, but I know it would hurt my family. So for the time being I want to stay under the radar and maintain status quo. If this is what you intent to do, then you should keep your thoughts to yourself...and remember that you will never win an arguement with a JW and that you can be disfellowshipped even if you are 100% right.
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Why Can JWs Eat Turkey On Thanksgiving & Still Say They Aren't Celebrating?
by minimus ini don't get it.. the idea is that it's ok to eat food on any day as everyday is a day of thanksgiving.
it was the only holiday that i knew witnesses to celebrate.. .
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We also had turkey during the Christmas season...and other typical holiday meals like ham, meat pie (tourtière)...we would even invite pioneers to join us. Our excuse was that we got together on these days and "associate" late at night because we didn't have to go to work the next morning...not because we were celebrating Christmas. We had no problem accepting a turkey, bottle of booze or Christmas bonus from our employer...All that was missing were the Christmas decorations...
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Speaking Of Sexual Abuse
by shamus100 inhere is the victim statement from theoren fleury.
i thought you all might enjoy reading it.
a very brave man!.
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He is not...his mother was when he was growing up and the book doesn't say if she is still in. Since he was practically raised by neighbours, he never became a JW.
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New here...need some support
by Freeof1914 infirst of all i am happy to be here..this site has been an invaluable tool which helped me get to the point where i am today.
i was born and raised as a jehovah's witness and i am now 30 yrs old.
my entire family are die hard witnesses; pioneers, elders, bethel etc.
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Welcome Freeof 1914,
I can't remember not being a JW and after 50 years I finally saw the truth about the "truth"...my wife, my mom, brother and sister are zealous JWs as I was most of my life. I resigned as a MS and started missing many meetings because of "work" when in fact I was signing up for all available business trips to avoid having to go to the Kingdom Hall. After the last day at the 2010 DC and the talk on the generation, I told my wife that I had attended my last JW meeting. I tried to explain but as most JW she didn't want to hear it. Still to this time we avoid the subject...she doesn't tell me anything about the brothers...and I keep my opinions to myself. All I can do is to show her unconditionnal love. I hope she notices that I am much happier and less judgemental. With time I hope to gain her by acts and without words.
I hope my experience paints a picture on some of the reactions and challenges you may face. Your love for your wife will be put to test...and so is her's...
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Where is the nicest hotel that you ever went to in your lifetime?
by Iamallcool ini want to vacation somewhere sometime later this year, but i am not sure where i want to go yet.
i need some ideas.
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Ritz Carlton Half Moon Bay California...Ritz Carlton Seoul, South Korea...The Shilla Hotel Seoul, South Korea...Chateau Frontenac, Quebec City...Caesar's Palace (if you like Las Vegas)...
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Speaking Of Sexual Abuse
by shamus100 inhere is the victim statement from theoren fleury.
i thought you all might enjoy reading it.
a very brave man!.
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Last year I read Theo Fleury's biography Playing with Fire and I just couldn't put down the book until I was finished. I was on a plane to South Korea and I started crying when I read that his mom was a Jehovah's Witness...and his whole childhood he feared he would die at Armageddon because he occasionally went to church with a family that would care for him when his mom was incapable due to chronic depression and being drugged up and because his unbelieving father was an alcoholic. Theo was lucky to have people who cared about him regardless on how bad things got. Goes to prove that not only JW do good deeds...I finished the book on my flight back to Canada. It was the first book not published by the WT that I read in years...
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Well, I guess I am marked now...
by garyneal inmy wife did a talk last night at the kingdom hall concerning how a god of love could kill people.
she asked me to come with her because she wanted the emotional support.
i agreed and we were all on the way.
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Several years ago I studied with a well educated man. His wife had been studying with my mom and making quick progress...but the husband started opposing her. So he was invited to come to the Sunday meeting to see for himself...and I offered a study...he started progessing too except for when we reached the question of blood transfusions...he said that out of love for his daughters he would do whatever is necessary to save their lives and would never refuse a blood transfusion. Like the Hero Elder I told him not to worry about deciding right away to obey this law on blood, that such a commitment could only come after he came to a "full understanding" of God's will...To illustrate I asked him if he would have proposed to his wife after their first date...he said no...then I asked if today he would be ready to give his own life to protect her's...he said of course...likewise getting to know more about God would help us obey his laws more closely. So we kept on studying until he got baptized...and it all worked itself out with time. Today I realize how messed up and brain-washed I was to recommand a father forsake his love for his daughters only to sacrifice their lives to obey a man-made law...
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Brought tears of sorrow to my eyes
by NVR2L8 intwo nights ago it was meeting night for the "believing" members of my familly.
my wife who is usually the most regular at attending meetings decided to stay home because she wasn't feeling well.
my unbaptized son and his active wife weren't going either.
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Troubled mind: I get what you are saying. I am in the opposite situation - everytime I attempt to discuss JW business with my wife she gets mad and she doesn't want to hear it...which is the typical JW reaction. My son is unbaptized and I had some discussions with him...but not with his wife who recently got baptized...this indicated to me that I have to use caution. I dont want to DA or be DF and I have not yet been vilified, so I can enjoy a "quasi-normal" relationship with my JW family. It looks like both my wife and son have realized what would happen if they told anyone the real reasons why I no longer go to the KHall...I'm not sure my seven year old grand daughter is ready to hear the true reasons of my absentism from the hall and understand the impact it would have if she shared this with others...
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Brought tears of sorrow to my eyes
by NVR2L8 intwo nights ago it was meeting night for the "believing" members of my familly.
my wife who is usually the most regular at attending meetings decided to stay home because she wasn't feeling well.
my unbaptized son and his active wife weren't going either.
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Thks for your comment Gayle. I do spend a lot of time playing and talking with both of them. My son says he never expected that I would grow so close to his children...I guess he based his expectations on the fact that when he was growing up I was very busy earning a living in jobs fitting my poor academics and being a good JW - leaving little time for me to be with my children other than meetings, family study and service...now I use my leasure time as I see fit and much of it is spent with my family. I sense that my son and his wife are not convinced JWs by the fact they are planning to start a business...built their own house...their long term goals are an indication that they don't truly believe the end is close. When time comes I will help them set long term goals for their kids' education...and I can fund some of it too.