Posts by NVR2L8

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Fakeness of the Elders When CO Visits Video

by TOTH in

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friends

i just ran across this video and enjoyed it a lot.

i hope you guys do too..... i can still remember the fake-ass elders scrambling trying to get everyone to show up for service and put on a big face...lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=royjqnqrcc0&feature=related.

NVR2L8

I hated the CO's visits because I always felt I never did enough. Having been raised in the truth, I was a MS at a young age but I always held back a little not to become an elder. The CO always wanted to know what was holding me back...guilty conscience or secret personality flaws...

The last CO we had was a real dick. He and his wife were right out of the 70's with their hair styles and dresses. He was obsessed with the sisters cleavage and tight tops...His wife was dressed like a Mennonite. At that time I was taking care of the accounts and the previous CO commended me for the great job I did - he had never seen the accounts so well organized. This new CO dick pointed out an error of $0.11 - where I had sent the amount under Worldwide Work instead of the Kingdom Hall Fund...The money still went to the WT! He told me that I should be more careful with the accounts, but not in such a nice way. From that time I started thinking about stepping down and a few months later I did and I was no longer around at his next visit.

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Should you ever tell tour aging parents the truth about the truth

by Star tiger in

since finding out the truth about the truth myself and having successfully extricated myself and my parents about the jw's, i find myself with a new dilema that being they still believe the bible as a literal book for their salvation as i has read all of thomas paines works and how the bible is not very good for the human family, as they are of advancing years would it be inappropriate to shatter their illusions of some kind of paradise and let them flounder in a moral precipice and wonder what their lives have been about.

on the flip side once their time has come how would i feel for not telling them their false views.

at the moment i am in the deist point of view, with a tendency of the agnostic, it is quite a dilema!.

NVR2L8

I found out the truth about "the Truth" in my mid-50's. My dad passed away a few years ago and my mom has drowned her pain and sorrows by serving Jehovah (WT) full time. At 78 years old she has nothing else in her life and if I told her how I really feel about this dam cult, it would only break her heart. I am 100% that Jesus Christ himself couldn't convince her that the WT is a scam and that she would believe that Satan has desguised himself as an angel of light to draw her away from "the truth". So I will avoid discussing why I can no longer continue wasting my life away serving a publishing empire. My younger brother is an elder in her congregation and I told him what's going on with me. He agreed to keep this from my mom. I hope that he figures it out for himself and some of the things I discussed with him had him rattled...now all he has to do is do his own research.

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Every day that goes by in this rotten old system is just one day closer to Jehovahs new world.

by life is to short in

i grew up hearing this all the time.

it made me wish my life away, not look at the small joys every day of life brings to all of us.

instead i looked at all the bad there was in the world, my life, etc and blamed it all on satan.

NVR2L8

When you don't know the final destination, every mile you drive brings you closer to nowhere...If you don't have a date how do you know you are close?

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Elders want to pay a visit

by varian in

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friends

i had a phone call recently.

two elders want to come round.. now i ve been out for approx.

8 years.

NVR2L8

Varian,

At this point the only benefit you may receive from this visit is that you will be able to vent...anything you say will have zero impact on what happened then or what will happen in the future. After 8 years all they will want to do is to encourage you to come back and offer to pray with you...So if it will make you feel better, just let them have it and it may be another 8 years before they return!

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Watching TV, JW wife can see a problem with a fictional cult

by OnTheWayOut in

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so the jw wife and i are watching the mentalist (cbs crime investigation show) and the crime is the murder of a former cult member of a fictional cult; the visionaries.

the first policeman on scene is a visionary who tampered with the scene to remove evidence that a visionary killed a former member.

my wife says "he's going to risk his career and violate the law to protect someone he probably does not even know.

NVR2L8

OTWO,

I had a similar experience. I was watching Intervention on A&E with my wife and it was about a gay man who was abusing drugs. It caught our attention because he was from our general area. When they showed pictures of him as a young boy it looked like him and his family were wearing "meeting" clothes and I almost told my wife that they were a JW family...Later in the program the gay man said he was repeatedly sexually abused by a member of his "extended" family. The mother said that her husband brought the matter to the congregation elders and as a JW that how you deal with such issues. When the whole family was brought together for the pre-intervention you could see the JW traits in the older brother. He had disdain for his brother gay lifestyle and he was unable to show unconditional love...all he could do was blame and condemn and the interventionist had to repeatedly explain what was needed to convince his brother to go to treatment...My wife made no comments even when I said that I felt sad that the boy's childhood was so messed up eventhough his parents were in the "truth"...

Like you said I doubt she will give it more thought...she wouldn't want to give up her social life because one poor child's sexual abuse was mishandled by "imperfect" elders who did their best to help.

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Please keep our buddy SD-7 in your thoughts (and prayers)!

by serenitynow! in

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friends

sd-7 texted me today.

his wife is in labor, has had some complications and is having an emergency c-section.

he asked me to spread the word to the folks on jwn.

NVR2L8

Boy or girl? Just curious...

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You have never heard of anyone have a bad day in field service, Right!

by life is to short in

i grew up hearing that over and over.

i used to think about those bumper stickers that say i would rather be golfing or fishing.

jw's should have bumper stickers that say i would rather be going door to door.. once i got old enough to understand it, i used to beat myself up all the time because some of the most hellish days of my life have been out in service.. for so many reasons even more then i will list!.

NVR2L8

For the last six months I attended meetings, I would go out in service with my wife only. I can't remember ever going to my new service group after they eliminated the traditional book study groups. I conducted the book study at my house and when that was over I asked to not have a field service arrangement at my house. So my wife and I would do a couple of return visits - most of them social - with an old couple who took the literature and I had a few calls a long way out in the country...This would allow me to put in a service report...

I always hated service and I still clearly remember when my mother would "vacation" pioneer in April and she would have me stand on a street corner every morning holding up magazines right across from my grade school. All the teachers and students would see me and I felt so embarassed.

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Dreaded elder's visit come and gone.

by Vidqun in

the dreaded elder's visit has come and gone.

this is a condensed version.

e=elder; v=vidqun.. v: i believe god has withdrawn his spirit from the leadership and congs of jws because of all the bad things happening.

NVR2L8

OODAD - When your JW "friends" or family say they miss you, they mean they wish to see you at the KHall...they don't really miss you at all because if they did they would come and visit you at home or invite you over. As soon as you start missing meetings any social activities you had with them cease...My own mother and brother live 600 km away and they never talk to me unless I call them. They are way too busy with their service to the WT, and now that I told them I haven't gone to a meeting for 18 months, I guess that's the end of their "love" for me...

By the way, at one point I will tell visiting elders what I really think of their cult and their hypocrite leaders...your list of grievances is dead accurate.

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Schedule.. Circuit Overseer's Week Visit for my Wife..

by Poztate in

sunday..talk and wt (not really part of visit).

monday..prepare for tuesday meeting and she has a part.

tuesday..sm and tms... gives part.

NVR2L8

Used to occasionally attend week night meetings when I travelled to Vancouver for business, KHall on Westminster Hwy...(Harris Charland's old cong) or the Quelchina cong...(not sure of the spelling)...a few year ago. Surprisingly I ran into an old high school buddy there and an elder who used to be in my cong back east.

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Schedule.. Circuit Overseer's Week Visit for my Wife..

by Poztate in

sunday..talk and wt (not really part of visit).

monday..prepare for tuesday meeting and she has a part.

tuesday..sm and tms... gives part.

NVR2L8

edited double post...