with all the bethel leaks.
i started to think about the levels of pimos with in bethel as apposed to the rank and file.
would there be higher rates of pimos bethel due to seeing the more unsavoury side of it.
joe - evels of PIMOS
We may never know. Life and the thought process are not black and white. There are shades and nuances in all cultures and walks of life. Bethel or not, there are hangers on and leavers. The unsure. The 'will keep holding on no matter what, brigade'.
I suppose what I'm saying in a nutshell is, 'dunno.'
the expression "jehovah god" has always seemed strange to me.
even when i was a jw, i found the term awkward, and never used it myself.
both words are nouns intended to be synonyms of each other, unless the name "jehovah" is being used as an adjective, which is also weird.
jayhawk Silly people, God is Jehovah's last name.
I thought his name was Harold. As in, 'Harold be thy name.'
saluting the flag was something not encountered very often here in the 1970s uk, in fact that kind of nationalism or patriotism was something i'd been warned about as a young boy, being brought up in the jehovah's witnesses from age 4, through meetings and the publications.
at some point, i don't know when, i decided it was more american, whether rightly or wrongly.. but even so, there was a large black and white photo of our entire school in panoramic format right outside my classroom on the wall saluting the flag, and i think this was the 1977 25 year jubilee of queen elizabeth ii.. now as a young person attending a fairly religious school in the 1970's, you were used to "making a stand" for things, letter in hand first day in a new class, and being ushered into one room or another to avoid religious assemblies and other xmas, and other seasonal celebrations.. one day the teachers, in their abundant wisdom, stood myself and a younger witness in the corridor right outside the assembly hall where the children would filter past.
every second or third child that filtered past would ask, "why are you standing there?
I am not really interested in all this pomp and ceremony.
I am not a Monarchist nor Republican.
It's all just tribal nonsense to me.
The Jobots instilled in me a sense that all authority is shite.
as a jw would you have allowed your pet to have a blood transfusion to save it's life?
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what is the society's stand on this today?.
Atlantis - QFR - The Bible is very clear in showing that blood should not be eaten.
Such loaded language those scum suckers use.
Let's be fair. If you ask the WBT$ anything except, 'can I give you money and goods?' or 'should we protect and hide child abusers?'. Their answer is usually, 'No!'
sadly the wt failed to teach fundamental biblical doctrines.
i did never really understand the doctrine about ransom while i was still in the congregation.. i did not either understand what it really means that "god is love" as stated in the bible.
i did not either understand from the wt what is love.
I tried to put my own document together once. It was simply going to be about who the Apostles and Disciples were. A potted history of them as people.
I went to the WT Library disc and what did I find?
Not a lot of any use. Just, 'do more in the ministry(tm)'. Give us more money.
Perhaps I should have realised that all the info I needed was in the Bible itself. that's when I read it on it's own without watchtower(tm) goggles. What a huge difference. The WT Library really depressed me.
So much for 'accurate knowledge(TM)!
judging by some forum comments and tweets, it seems like some female exjw's feel they are being ignored or excluded from things.
i thought i'd share my views.
what could possibly go wrong .... first, i think it's unfair to post and judge people based on a private chat shared without permission and posted without context.
I feel like I've missed out on all the action here.
Probably best.....
i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.
(it was a very close vote).
the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..
I would imagine the WTBT$ relish their control. However, if by allowing beards, they get more money to get sozzled on fine whiskey whilst protecting their like minded child abusers, they'll allow it.
Otherwise, their favourite word is NO.
the last 2 1/2 years have been extremely stressful.
while the rest of the world was dealing with covid, i was also dealing with cancer.
in fact it seems none of my doctors knew about it.
what’s the world coming to?
(i guess this makes me officially an older while male now ).
It's another boring buzzword.
for argument sake let’s assume that this verse should apply to 1914. what are your thoughts on generation?.
Hello, Sir Fish. I hope all is well with you.
Whatever my views, I don't think they 'overlap(tm)'.
As for 1914, I see no significance there. When I left the Jobots and became a mainstream Christian, I got the impression from this text as being more about the generation alive up to the Romans and Masada and all that stuff because they saw it.
Now, it's pretty meaningless to me. I'm more inclined to a Buddhist-lite version of life.
