Posts by punkofnice

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

I think the book that really helped me was 'combatting cult mind control' Steven Hassan. It explained how cults use words to mentally enslave people.

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"The Truth"

by Ding in

we all know that jws consider the wt religion to be "the truth" and refer to it as such.. granted, that phrase is used repeatedly in the literature and from the platform.. but it's obvious that much of what the organization used to require jws to teach house-to-house as important truths--even within our own lifetimes--has been abandoned.

it's been replaced by "new light" and "refined understanding.

what's meant by "the 1914 generation" is a prime example.. in fact, i think it would be hard to find another religion that has changed so many of its teachings, especially in such a short period of time.. so why do jws still believe their religion to be "the truth"?.

punkofnice

"The Truth"

It's verbal trickery. Weasel words. The term is used to convince the user that the Watchtower(tm) is correct.

I think it used to be called NLP. Neuro-linguistic programming is a way of changing someone's thoughts and behaviours. A propaganda technique.

How can you be 'in' the 'truth'?

that's why I never say 'when I was in the truth.' I will say 'when I was in the cult.'

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Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

by smiddy3 in

has this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?

and what`s the significance, if any ?.

punkofnice

Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?

I'd answer by saying that we need to prove he even existed before going to question his winkie.

Many start off with the premise that he existed.

He didn't write any books of the Bible (that was bunged together by some geezers who did a bit of an 'eenie meenie miny mo' for this).

There is absolutely no evidence of his existing outside of the Bible.

I know this character was supposed to be walking mysteriously and shizz, but come on.

The nearest are vagaries that can be crowbarred into the fiction.

Yep! First, prove this geezer existed outside of the Bible. I'll give a hint. No one can. It's all made up!

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UN and Governing Body and an accounting

by AnnaNana in

joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".

joseph and mary were not perfect.

the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.

punkofnice

I think Anna has left the building, folks.

Hello and welcome, Linda. New here?

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“Hanging the earth upon nothing”

by FFGhost in

for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

the reasoning goes something like this:.

“see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

punkofnice

Good post. Nice one Cyril!

There are so many things 'symbolic' that the Bible must be a load of old 'bolics.

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Judgment Day

by Fisherman in

a specific “day,” or period, when particular groups, nations, or mankind in general are called to account by god.

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“i solemnly charge you before god and christ jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead,”- 2 tim 4:1. seems like sins are not paid by dying or the ransom if there is a judgment in-spite of it.

punkofnice

Judgment Day

Pure fiction. It's not coming. Nothing will happen. How old are the writings that are used for this?

People are wasting their time on being Bible (or some other 'holy' writing. Pick your poison), 'intellectuals' with constant study over something wishful through rosy coloured glasses.

Judgement day would have come before now. It seems each generation (overlapping or not), thinks 'it' is coming in their life-time. Oh, my. Oh, my. How sad.

There's life out there. Stop wasting time on made up stuff.

Believe what you want, though. In my opinion, it's a massive waste of time.

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I need your help to get out

by ElMartin in

i'm using google translate, my native language is spanish .

hola, esta es mi primera publicación en este sitio.

tengo 22 años, me dediqué a jehová y lo que creo que fue la organización de él a los 18 años.. ai am currently inactive in spiritual activities, which led me to wonder and question if the watchtower has the truth.

punkofnice

Fishertroll - you are free to go.

The ARC proved this is a big lie.

Fisherman is a troll. Don't feed the troll.

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which Translation Now?

by enoughisenough in

for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

why?.

punkofnice

I wouldn't say I don't 'respect' the Bible as such, I just don't think it is inspired by a God or Gods. There's ome good and awful stuff in it.

However, I have the old family Bible passed down to me which is a very old KJV. That's my fave.

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Had to laugh.

by Lost in the fog in

i had to laugh.. i bumped into a friend who has started going back to the meetings and who has that enthusiastic arm-waving way of talking about the stuff they're hearing from the platform.. in part he's wittering on about some talk they'd had about king david and all of his ups and downs.

and says, "and as the speaker emphasized over and over again, we can imitate david because he was a man just like ourselves.".

" i finally interrupted.. that shut him up.

punkofnice

and as the speaker emphasized over and over again, we can imitate David

Was this geezer running around naked at the time?

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I need your help to get out

by ElMartin in

i'm using google translate, my native language is spanish .

hola, esta es mi primera publicación en este sitio.

tengo 22 años, me dediqué a jehová y lo que creo que fue la organización de él a los 18 años.. ai am currently inactive in spiritual activities, which led me to wonder and question if the watchtower has the truth.

punkofnice

I need help putting together an outline (list of ideas or script) so I can talk to the congregation elders. And maybe I can make them reason, or ridiculously defend the inconsistencies of the Watchtower.

That is a bad idea.

The Elders will not see reason. They will get you shunned you without hesitation.

Elders will not listen to anything that is negative about their cult.

If you can just fade away, that is better.

I would like to leave things in a way where you remember that the honesty of seeing things is more important than blind faith.

I admire your honesty. However, the JWs will not. They will shun you, tell lies about you and feel that they are superior to you. They will not listen to anything that does not come from Watchtower. They will think that you speak for Satan.

BEWARE!