Posts by punkofnice

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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
punkofnice

"The Jesus character, didn't leave any writings." - very weak argument as many bible characters didn't leave any writings
It's actually a very strong argument. I would have expected the Messiah to at least make a bit of an effort.
I suspect he's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!

That other characters left no writings also brings into question their existence.
"Then you have to prove God exists." - admittedly I have very few ways to do that... Bible doesn't really touch on the subject as in those days people were far more religious, even look 100 years ago..
That's my problem. I cannot take such life changing things on faith.
As for the Wiki article, it doesn't really say much apart from opinions.
I fancy these opinions are from many that profit from such postulations.
That's probably not all I have to say, but you never know. Thanks for your comments, BTW, Blotster
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Two gems from February 2023 Study Watchtower
by BoogerMan in
1. watchtower
2. bible
february 2023 study watchtower: .

p. 16, par.

5 - ”when we base our discussions on material published by jehovah’s organization, (not the bible!
punkofnice

jan - see this from the bodgetower itself...
“They say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such ‘Bible reading,’ they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom’s clergy were teaching 100 years ago…”—The Watchtower, August 15, 1981, pp. 28-29
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Is Your Name in “the Book of Life?"
by BruceX in
1. watchtower
2. bible
here are 2 reviews about the recent watchtower study article "is your name in “the book of life?':.

https://beroeans.net/2022/11/24/wt-fantasy/.

https://michaeljfelker.com/2022/11/16/is-your-name-in-the-book-of-life-watchtower-study-review-september-2022/.
punkofnice

I shouldn't think so. It's doesn't exist.
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Who raised Jesus from the dead?
by Blotty in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.

(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.

galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
punkofnice

Jeffro has hit the nail on the head as usual.
It's all fiction.
Just because people have been hoodwinked by grifters that perpetuate this fiction, doesn't mean it's true.
For a start, there is no real evidence outside of the Bible that Jesus actually existed. The Jesus character, didn't leave any writings.
Then, even if you prove there was a Jesus, you then have to prove the stories about him in the Bible were true. Then you have to prove God exists.
Don't be fooled just because a book confirms itself, or men in funny hats say it is all true. They're often on the grift if not fooled by grifters themselves!
Yes, I believed it once. However, honest questions opened my eyes. Everyone should ask themselves honest questions, even if they are uncomfortable and inconvenient.
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Struggling to find a purpose
by My Name is of No Consequence in
1. jw
2. experiences
i spent most of my life in the org.

we were taught that our purpose in life was to serve jehovah.

that never really made sense to me, but it was still a purpose to keep going.
punkofnice

namey - . I’m now divorced, a large part of that had to do with me waking up.
Same here. The Elders told her to leave me because I was labelled 'apostate(tm)'.
I struggle too. I can no longer believe in God because I have asked honest questions. Religion to me, at least, is all fiction. Used by selfish grifters to get them money and power. They have pretended that the Bible/Quran or other pile of fiction is real, for their own ends.
So. What do I do?
I play in a fairly successful local rock band.
I research my family tree.....some surprises there, too.
I have joined a Viking re-enactment group.
It only helps a bit. Most of the time I'm lost in a gloomy world.
I know all life ends in death with no promise of an after-life (I'll find out or not after I shuffle off this mortal coil).
It's just about filling the time before that happens, with stuff.
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Book of life in pencil
by road to nowhere in
1. watchtower
2. bible
where is the scripture about using pencil?.
punkofnice

2B or not 2B?
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How are things in bethel right now?
by Hellothere in
1. jw
2. experiences
any news how things are at bethel just now?

been thinking, strange they have gb members giving speeches when they look so depressed.

but maeby there is not many others too choose from.
punkofnice

we may not fully understand the decision or agree with it.
....I can explain it. They want the money they would have spent so that they can protect sexual predators and buy TOMO3rd posh booze..
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How things are in JW land right now?
by Hellothere in
1. watchtower
2. bible
any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?

are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.
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fooly - One of my still in relatives was on zoom and was called out for having a glass of orange juice.
Still with the pious, sanctimonious bullies in the cult, I see.
they don't know love. Just self righteousness like stazi.
Boomin' idiots.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

inquiring minds want to know .

estephan.
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The Babylon the great prophecy has not been fulfilled
....and it never will, because it's all fiction.
Why do people believe all this stuff?
Hoodwinked by grifters fooling people in to believing the Bible is a 'Holy book'!
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
by Godlyman in
1. watchtower
2. bible
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.

estephan.
punkofnice

Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?
Jeeves the Butler.