Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Is it possible to nullify a baptism?

by idk123 in

hope you are all well,.

i was wondering within the organisation if there are any guidelines or grounds for nullifying a baptism.

see i grew up a jehovah's witness and was baptised at age 13, i didn't get baptised for the right reasons, i felt pressured to because my friends were getting baptised at the same time.

DesirousOfChange

Out of respect for the organization

Your thinking is fucked up. They deserve no respect. They respect no one else.

Also, Finkelstein is correct. WT lawyers have made the sworn statement in court that ONLY spiritual relationship with family members is to cease. NORMAL FAMILY RELATIONS CONTINUE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DiFM845NtE

This is a clip from the hearing. Show it to your parents. If they say that is not true, then ask them if they mean the WT Society representative (attorney) LIED UNDER OATH. If they say it is fake, ask them to contact the Branch and ask if this is their position or if they lied in Court.

Be really f&cking stumbled that WT is lying in Court. Paul said to "pray for the King" and respect the Superior Authorities. It would appear to me that something or someone way up in WTS has gone rogue (apostate)!

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Authorities Raid Russian Jehovah’s Witnesses

by Bangalore in

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/12/31/authorities-raid-russian-jehovahs-witnesses-uthorities-raid-russian-jehovahs-witnesses-a68786.

authorities raided homes of jehovah’s witnesses in northern russia as part of a criminal probe into extremism against the banned religious organization, investigators said in a statement monday.. russia banned the christian denomination known for door-to-door preaching, close bible study and rejection of military service and blood transfusions in 2017. rights groups have condemned the crackdown against the jehovah’s witnesses as a violation of religious freedom.

investigators in the city of murmansk accused worshippers of “knowingly conducting the activities of the religious organization from april 2017 to the present time.” .

DesirousOfChange

Wish they'd quit it with this shit. It just fuels the persecution complex of every JW.

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Watchtowers Real Estate Website...www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/

by NikL in

jw
friends

is this for real?.

https://www.watchtowerbrooklynrealestate.com/.

apologies if this has been brought up before..

DesirousOfChange

Hell no!

They sold every parcel they once owned in Brooklyn. Nothing more to advertise.

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"Do You think that 8 million are being deceived?" Ways to answer this?

by BottleGate_ in

mine is : jws preach that the entire population of the earth has been deceived ..

DesirousOfChange

I don't know about the other 7,999,999, but I sure the hell was deceived!

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meeting attendance

by asp59 in

how much has meeting attendance gone down say the last 10-15 years at khs do you think?

in percentage.

DesirousOfChange

Since their plan is to merge Congregations, I expect that the actual attendance figures (per Cong) have increased. It's good biz policy. A full building looks better and is more exciting than a 1/2 empty room. (Think Trump rally vs Biden town hall.)

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Did You Know Any "Genuine"" Old School Anointed?

by Number 6 in

growing up in scotland in the 1970s in scotland the anointed were few and far between, but we had one old dude in our cong who claimed to be one of the anointed.

in the days when it was taken seriously.. i'd be curious how you viewed them.

thing is, he wasn't an elder, or even a ministerial servant, just a plain old publisher.. but he was revered like he had a hotline to jesus.. the other week i was talking to a friend of similar age to me but who hung around the wt a lot longer than i did, and he just commented "oh him... he was a doddery old fool who used to just sit and piss himself.

DesirousOfChange

To me, “genuine, old school” would suggest that they felt the calling before the old rules changed — before 1935. Thus they would have had to have been born before 1915. So they are all dead. The ones I knew as a child seems like any other JW, just older.

Whereas any “new partaker” that I have known has had issues with mental illness, usually bi-polar. Additionally, I think that anyone who really thinks they have this special personal calling from God to rule over all their JW peers has to at least a bit narcissistic and an inflated opinion of themself.

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Favorite Bumper Stickers!

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

one the jws like.. "get busy!

god is coming and he is pissed.".

one the that people who are not jws like.. "please god protect me from your people".

DesirousOfChange

“Put down your damn phone and drive!”

.......

During the Reagan administration:

”Jane Wyman was right!”

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

DesirousOfChange

Doubts in 1985 — generation change. More doubts 2010 — another generation change. Packed it up that same year when I realized there was really no divine (Holy Spirit) direction in the Borg. (Yes. I really did believe that BS.) 😡 Totally embarrassed and feel like a gullible fool.

It’s all a sham.

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'Experiences(tm)'! Made up or totally true??

by punkofnice in

at one assembly(tm), i was asked to relate an 'experience(tm)' which i did.

however, during rehearsals, the geezer in charge elder or co or some such title, told me that i shouldn't tell it the way it was.

i did a 're-enactment(tm)' with another 'brother(tm)'.

DesirousOfChange

I think most are “based on real events”. Kinda like any Hollywood movie that makes that statement. (HAHA) IOW, lots of “poetic license”. Not quite absolute lies

Things like “lost my job” get changed to “sought early retirement” (to pioneer, etc).

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Joe Biden and Push-up Contests

by minimus in

jw
friends

in the past, the former vp has challenged trump to a push-up contest and today he did again , only this time to an 83 year old man who told biden that he thought he was too old to run for president.

it appears biden called him fat and unlike the man he wasn’t sedentary.

then he challenged the man to a push-up contest.

DesirousOfChange

Yes, there are plenty of Dem VP candidates. Of the 23 in the debate, I suspect about 20 of them were hoping to be selected as VP for Biden or Sanders. That would give them about a 50-50 chance of being president in the next four years as both of them are old enough to die in the White House.