DesirousOfChange

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  Is it because of Pride or Loyalty?

  by joey jojo in

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  in a recent effort to entice me back to meetings, an elder friend gave me the example of his dad.. he said that his pioneer/elder/ex-missionary dad went through the anticipation and disappointment of 1975 and yet, he kept going faithfully for decades afterwards.

  the obvious point was that, if his dad can deal with disappointment, then, surely a nobody like me could do the same in regards to the scrapping of the 1914 generation doctrine, and all the other changes.

  his 'encouragement' was to tell me that it was only me that felt like this, everyone else is fine and have no problems with the changes.

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  I think there is also that "ONE FOOT IN THE DOOR" crowd of JW's. They have huge doubts and no longer really believe that The End(™) is imminent. BUT, WHAT IF WT IS RIGHT? They cannot get it completely out of their head, so they "keep one foot in the door" -- just in case. These are the people that "jump back in with both feet" when there is a "9/11" event or pandemic.

  Then, there is the "BEST WAY OF LIFE" crowd. They have really given up any hope of walking right into Panda Paradise. They've lived through numerous WT False Prophecies. But they think "Where shall we go, Lord?" Not from a religious or salvation point of view. Rather, where else would they go to replace all their "friends" and social network? As long as you don't want to live immorally; as long as you don't need a transfusion; as long as you don't have a member abusing your child or grandchild; then it's not a bad lifestyle as long as you find your clique. After all, "where else shall you go" for pizza and beer after the meeting?
  
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  HELP!! Just Woken Up - Fanatical Mom wants to report me

  by Scarlett_Martin in

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  i've just been introduced to this site by a pimo friend of mine.

  this will be my first post on this website.

  i need help, and he told me you guys are a very supportive community.. i'm a female in my mid twenties.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Scarlett:

  If you want to slow down your exit, remain with your mother, and not be DFd or ostracized, you will need to "make a plan".

  1) If your mother is going to report you to the elders, then you will likely have to meet with them or they will pursue you as an apostate if she tells them about you being on this (and other) websites. Does she know you are reading this online? You will be asked how you "learned" these things! REMEMBER, your mother thinks she is trying to SAVE YOUR LIFE! (Yes, she is being deceived just as we all were!)
  

  2) Don't throw your PIMO friend under the bus. Perhaps you could say that you got all this information from a workmate who is "anti-JW". At first they pretended to be "interested" in The Troof, but then started sharing this anti-JW information with you. The information they have been feeding you, has you "confused" and has "raised some doubts". Implore the Elders to help you and let them "set matters straight". It "seemed" to make senseat first, but you realize it must all be lies.

  If you feel guilty being deceptive, then simply remember that the Organization says you're telling a "lie" only if the person DESERVES to know the truth. These men DO NOT DESERVE ANYTHING FROM YOU.

  3) MOST IMPORTANT -- ERASE YOUR INTERNET HISTORY!!!! (Just re-read some of your posts and saw you are spending a lot of time on line at jwfacts, etc.

  4) Start developing "worldly" friendships. People at work. Former classmates. Etc.
  

  5) SAVE MONEY!!

  6) Plan for a future on your own. At 20, I was out of the house and proud to be so even though I was still a "believing" JW (tho not living up to all the rules).

  7) REJOICE that you've learned TTATT at only 20 years of age. My wife and I were in our 50's. OUR LIVES were mostly wasted on this Cult. YOUR life has just begun!

  Good luck!

  Doc
  
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  8 Year Old Can Decide If They Are Transgendered

  by minimus in

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  so says joe biden.. anybody agree with this?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Please don't go Cofty!

  This shit will be over soon!
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  Trump/Biden Debate

  by minimus in

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  i liked the format and i think donald trump destroyed joe biden.. your opinion?

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  Did he really have an iPad on his podium?

  That explains it all!

  I was really impressed he could handle the conversation for almost 90 minutes although giving credit to the Adderall.

  Let's face it, if Biden is elected, he won't have to do more than 90 minutes of work before Pelosi and Harris impose the 25th Amendment and they'll have Cuomo select his retirement home.
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  Trump/Biden Debate

  by minimus in

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  i liked the format and i think donald trump destroyed joe biden.. your opinion?

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  I thought Sleepy Joe actually looked a little sleepy towards the end of the debate. Seems he was watching the clock wishing it over. I guess Adderall only works for so long.

  I think Trump actually acted "presidential". See there! He can do it if he wants to!

  The Biden camp seems to still be blaming the Russians for everything. Russian "misinformation" about the Biden "vacuum sweeper" sucking in all the cash they can.
  
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  Belgium: Jehovah’s Witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  jehovah’s witnesses to face trial for discrimination and incitement to hate.

  https://www.thebulletin.be/jehovahs-witnesses-face-trial-discrimination-and-incitement-hate?fbclid=iwar3wroaxyiadw0lomgmway-jkwzgzqxtswsid1d2lxhjgtndnfvvclqboo0.

  "while jehovah’s witnesses have been the target of civil court cases before, this is the first time an entire congregation has ever been charged with a crime.".

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  DesirousOfChange

  POOR WATCHTOWER!

  
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  Trump/Biden Debate

  by minimus in

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  i liked the format and i think donald trump destroyed joe biden.. your opinion?

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  DesirousOfChange

  Yeah, he's been to the Clinton school of honesty.

  
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  My Prediction: Trump Wins Big

  by minimus in

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  a month ago it might have been questionable.

  not now.

  after bader’s death and biden’s inability, this shouldn’t be close.

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  DesirousOfChange

  VOTE EARLY

  VOTE OFTEN
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  My Prediction: Trump Wins Big

  by minimus in

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  a month ago it might have been questionable.

  not now.

  after bader’s death and biden’s inability, this shouldn’t be close.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Sadly, I learned that my dad, a life long Republican, had voted for Hillary in the last election. He had NEVER done that if he had still been alive!
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  What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?

  by mikronboy in

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  i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.

  so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.

  are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  We received a handwritten letter this past week from a JW that we don't know, so it wasn't the matter of a former JW associate trying to encourage or reactive us. It was probably a young pioneer putting in their time.

  How stupid is it to write out a 100 "form letters" by hand, when a computer or even a copier could whip them out in 10 minutes and you just add the Dear So-and-so........

  But it's all about COUNTING TIME -- NOT MAKING TIME COUNT.