*w60 2/1 80 - 17 there may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.
in the days of israel parents were instructed by jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death.
there were no juvenile delinquents under such a system.
From this I understand that disfellowshipping that the person should be treated as if they were dead and continues that concept by saying thus a disfellowshipped person should not be spoken to or treated like they are live. I wonder if they still believe this.
I'd say they still believe all that. However, Caesar has forced them to lie about it use Theocratic Warfare strategies so as to appear they have changed their policy toward anyone removed from or leaving their little Cult.
7/28/2024 sunday, despite dozens of watchtower official press releases attempting to swamp google seo, new zealand child abuse outrages climb to page one for "jehovah" news results.. ".
former jehovah's witnesses welcome inquiry's findings of 'credible evidence' of abuse.
8:07 am on 27 july 2024".
A PIMO relative, who lives in New Zealand, mentioned to me that both in the papers ,and on the tv news stations, the Jehovah’s Witnesses didn’t even get mentioned.
No one gives a shit about Jehovah's Witnesses. At 1/10th of 1% of the population, they just do not matter. (Just don't tell them! They'd be crushed!)
co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.
today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.
it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.
I have noticed on other social media sites that there is a general feeling even among Americans that Republicans want a non educated society.
Factually, it is in the Democrat run cities that public schools have the highest drop out rates and lowest testing scores.
read this relevant message on reddit, about current elders.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1eb0ees/the_changes_are_affecting_elders_the_hardest_in/.
spot on, isn't it?.
gorby.
One thing that elders are not aware of, and should be is personal civil and criminal liability for some of the harms that they do. Does the congregation offer you liability insurance in case of a lawsuit? Elders are being played by the watchtower corporation. -- Gorb
Should some matter be mishandled enough to yield a lawsuit, I suppose the local elders can hope that the attorneys are really after the "deep pockets" of Watchtower. Attorneys are seeking to tap the big money -- bigger than the average JW has bankrolled (unless he is one of the few highroller JWs).
a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.
"one of jehovah's witnesses".
it's one of those coded jargon thingies.
We arent witnesses of anyone because in the 21st century we haven't witnessed anything,
No one has witnessed anything in the 20th Century either.
Nor in the 19th Century.
Noteworthy that since the Kingdom "establishment" in 1914 -- 110 yeas of nothing to see!
co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.
today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.
it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.
He and I (Balaamsass2) met years later when I moved into his cong. and was assigned to his book study. We are celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary next week. -- 3rdgen
Congratulations guys!
Pretty sure we had the opportunity to meet you both at Tahoe a few years ago. Definitely appreciate hearing your story!
co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.
today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.
it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.
I'm kind of surprised at the message being given in the video as it is much stronger than what I see going on locally. It is quite common for JW kids (esp the young gals) to go to at least 2-year Community College and on to career training such as nursing. Granted most of the young guys are going into the construction trades, which is very unionized here and earns great money and unmatched health benefits and retirement plans.
But I suppose it is understandable. When your kid goes to college they are taught to think independently. Of course they can't help being influenced by the lefties who are the educators. But once they see their first full paycheck is only half what they earned, they'll like the guys who promise to cut taxes.
good pick?
bad pick?
helpful to president biden?
I don't know why so many people on MAGA threads kept saying Michele Obama would be a last minute pick.
She's the only candidate that has a chance of beating Trump. Actually, Michelle and the Dominion IT folks. Michelle getting elected would effectively be Obama's 4th term.
'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
They will try some doublespeak just as did Geoffery Jackson when asked about the GB being the sole channel used by God.
"That would seem to be presumptuous."
True. And arrogant too.
But complete bullshit. Both his answer, and the claim of it being so.
i don't know if this has been posted before but i think it is a very in-depth study and definitely worth sharing.. what happens to those who exit jehovah’s witnesses: an investigation of the impact of shunning?.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/pmc9803876/ .
I think the Shunning Policy will continue to be a thorn for the Borg. There simply are too many former JWs who have gone through this (or are continuing to deal with it) that WT would be foolish to think that the complaints to the secular authorities are going to stop or subside. The recent changes are bullshit and they know it and anyone who knows anything about JWs also know it. The GB think they are so coy and sneaky and outsmarting the heathens. Government officials such as Angus Stewart (on the Australian Commission) know this shit! He knew their "secret elders' book" inside-and-out. He beat those JW elders who were "lying like a rug" with their own green book.
Wake up WT! It ain't gonna get any better any time soon!
