Posts by DesirousOfChange

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Do you think any of the GB have different beliefs?

by neat blue dog in

do you think any higher ups know that much of the doctrine they teach is bunk?

thinking back to the time of raymond franz, how he pointed out specifically numerous teachings that the churches really did have right all along, and really any of the hidden mic apostacy trials you listen to on youtube, you see that even when inconvenient bible teachings are proven, the elders just try to sweep it under the rug and move on.

i think i remember franz saying how one of the gb approached him somewhat sympathetically, but there was nothing he could do.. whether you believe in the bible or not, there are some basic beliefs common among most denominations because they're just so plainly stated, such things as heavenly life for all christians, no central authority structure, minimal use of god's name, etc.

DesirousOfChange

Of course some have "different" beliefs or they would never have "New Light", however they are forced to "discover" New Light only when the "Old Light" is proven to be so incorrect, ie, 1914 generation will not die. Well guess what? They are ALL dead. It didn't take rocket science to discern that. The JW GB was FORCED to come up with some New Light Bullshit to explain away the error of the Old 1914 doctrine.

Further, you know there are "different" beliefs because when 1 or 2 GB members die, that is when the New Light hits the scene. The dead member was a hold out from them reaching their 2/3 majority in voting in New Light doctrines.

It seem clear that they are running the JW religion on a reactionary game plan. There are NO prophecies or doctrinal changes that are truly "prophesy". It's all "after-the-fact" reactionary changes that are, at best, "temporary fixes".

Yet, most of the JoHo's just smile and nod their head with that "deer in the headlight" look when there is such New Light. The Borganization is SOO wonderful!

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They need MORE $$$$$

by TallTexan in

i haven't been to a meeting in years, but i was recently told by a friend of mine that they have really been hammering the 'use of your valuable things in support of the kingdom' in many of the talks and thursday night parts.

i know they used to mention it all the time, but he said it's gotten really bad lately.

i told him that's because the membership in the western (translate that to "richer"...lol) countries has really fallen off and even become negative in many countries and that the 3rd world countries can't contribute enough to support the great publishing empire.

DesirousOfChange

The purchased the hotels near Warwick for workers without any concern for cash flow. Hard for me to believe they're really "hurting". I do think they see the writing on the wall that things are going to come crashing down (an exodus that is already starting) and are preparing for that.

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Governing Body

by Acer21 in

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DesirousOfChange

There is no proof for almost ALL religious doctrines of ALL religion.

It's not FAITH. It's CREDULITY. You have to WANT to believe this bullshit.

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How far is this lunacy going to go?

by The Fall Guy in

people in the uk who apply for a blue badge (parking permit for disabled people) on the government web site, are asked to select one of three options regarding their gender:.

1. male .

2. female.

DesirousOfChange

These people are attempting to make us accept them for how they believe they are when they cannot accept themselves for what how they were born (really are).

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How Are JWs Affected By The Coronavirus?

by minimus in

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friends

will meetings and conventions be canceled?

the ministry?

shepherding calls, get togethers?

DesirousOfChange

All meetings and field serve-us cancelled here in the Midwest of the US. We have ONE case of Corona (the virus, not the beer) in this State.

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Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

by Simon in

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friends

this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

DesirousOfChange

Our health-care managers are shit.

And some of our politicans are suggesting they should manage ALL of our healthcare needs -- because the Government is SO EFFICIENT with everything else they do!

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Interesting piece about Stephen Lett and family: property developers

by Diogenesister in

another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.

interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.

once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.

DesirousOfChange

Any JW who followed the "advice" (direction) of the GB and kept their eye simple and pursued Kingdom interests first and stored up things "in heaven" vs planning for retirement etc simply GOT SCREWED because they followed that advice.

Instead of having a good education with good benefits and a pension or 401(k), they likely have a low-paying, manual labor job that is taxing on their aged body, or they are "self employed" in a venture such as the cleaning business and will have to continue working to supplement their Social Security (US here). And, instead of having money in investments, they have worthless old time slips for worthless hours of Field Serve-Us. But all of this just keeps them more "dependent" on Joe Hoover. He will never disappoint them.

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Interesting piece about Stephen Lett and family: property developers

by Diogenesister in

another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.

interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.

once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.

DesirousOfChange

Excellent video.

It's would be interesting to know what the insurance company paid out on the restaurant fire.

Seems to me there are many JW's following the example of Steven Lett. They talk out of one side of their mouth about The End ™ being soooo close, yet out of the other side they are speculating on new homes, their 401(k) and pensions for their retirement.

IMO, most JW's DO NOT BELIEVE ARMAGEDDON TO BE "RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER". Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do.

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Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

by Iamallcool in

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friends

it looks like joe biden might be the next president of united states!

your thoughts?

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DesirousOfChange

Tulsi Gabbard would surely be the best candidate by a mile to stand against Trump.

The VP on the ticket is going to have to be a woman. Gotta bring in those female voters. Gabbard would be good but Hawaii is a blue State anyway. They really need a woman (esp if a minority female) from a purple State to help draw that State into the blue column. Klobuchar would pull in MINN.

Whether it's Biden or Bernie, the old dude is likely to die in office (or lose it mentally), so that VP is going to likely become Pres.

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Joe Biden or Donald Trump?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

it looks like joe biden might be the next president of united states!

your thoughts?

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DesirousOfChange

DOC...it was said on SNL in a spoof of her. To the brainless leftists that is the same thing. ~ Doctor Who

Let's be honest. SNL might be a better source of news than CNN or MSNBC.