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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  DesirousOfChange

  ha ha--thats ridiculous--just using people for what you can get out of them ~ Stan

  Isn't that what they do?

  Turn about is fair play.
  
  
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. bible

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  DesirousOfChange

  They are not providing very good direction to the Borg from their heavenly thrones. WT is losing one lawsuit after another and (hopefully) being bled dry.
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  Depression & Isolation

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

  i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

  i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

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  DesirousOfChange

  I can't talk to anyone about this on the outside ( mental health counselor) because it could be a bad impression on the org plus they won't understand where I'm coming from anyway. ~ Sue

  Yes you can. Half of our Cong were seeing therapists or counselors or psychiatrists. While WT used to disparage mental health treatment in the past, that is not necessarily the case now. Actually, I think perhaps YOU have a bad impression of seeking mental health treatment. Get past that. I credit my counselor with saving my life.

  Usually returning to WT brings back all of your (conditional) friends, and I'm surprised that hasn't happened for you. Of course, WT wives can be jealous (or leery) of other single women. You really have to seek out other single women for "friends" and support.

  It is a lot more difficult to develop real friendships (meaning outside of WT). It takes a lot of work, especially if you do not have something obvious in common (workmates, hobbies, etc). And voicing up that you are a JW with all their "weird" ideas on holidays and birthdays complicates it because that is when people socialize -- birthday parties, etc.

  We have "faded" so we can have freer communication with JW family and (conditional) friends, but we have much better friends outside of the JW network. Just fewer that used to have in the Cong. because they don't (falsely) love bomb people.

  Good luck!

  The greatest revenge is living a happy & successful life!

  
  
  
  
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  DesirousOfChange

  New light: The GB were too stupid to have everything fully revealed to them.

  Now, THAT is believable and likely will never be subject to change.
  
  
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  My grandmother called my mother

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i’m just posting this as a warning to lurking jws.

  if you’re still on the fence, here is a story.. my grandmother, now in her 80s hasn’t talked to anyone in the family for over 20 years ever since my mother was the last one of her children that left ‘the truth’, she had sent my mother a card to never talk to her again.

  so here we are 21 years later, she gets a call out of the blue that she needed help, she hadn’t been able to get into her kitchen.

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  DesirousOfChange

  (All) religion is a snare and a racket.
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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  DesirousOfChange

  It doesn't matter if you are right or wrong yourself; they shun you just because you don't follow the party line.

  What happened to the Israelites who blindly followed the High Priest, Aaron, in worshipping the Golden Calf?

  Ex 3:35 " And the Lord struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made.

  What happened to the Israelites who blindly followed the prophets in the days of Elijah?

  1 Kings 18:40 "And Elijah said to them, “Seize the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape.” And they seized them. And Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon and slaughtered them there."

  Was there any debate/confusion that what Elijah was speaking was true?

  See 1 Kings 18:36-39
  
  So, why is there confusion today about the words of the Governing Body?

  Deut 18:22 "when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously."

  
  
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Scholar Are you serious or a troll?

  That seems obvious to me.

  
  

  
  
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  2024 Regional convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone answer the question about the regional convention?

  has there been 2024 all three days convention released yet?

  videos and all?.

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  DesirousOfChange

  WOW! That would be (are is, if this is accurate) a HUGE change.
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  DesirousOfChange

  They should be paranoid considering how many people's lives they have harmed. There are likely a lot of folks who really are "out to get them" and would love nothing more than to see them topple from their ivory tower.
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  2023 Yearly Report UNDER the Microscope

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/pi7sn2rnrke?si=lnvklqct6nuayv2q.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 85 (= down one from 86 from the previous year and quite possibly they are referring to the hong kong bethel that closed down recently).

  number of lands reporting: 239 ( =the same as 2022).

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  DesirousOfChange

  Where did they find that many JW kids to dunk?