DesirousOfChange

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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  The amount of lying and deceitfulness is simply appalling!

  It's not like they lied on one or two (or even a few) insignificant things. NO! What did they NOT lie about? It even involves some of their most important doctrines -- doctrines that separate them from Christendom and that identify them as "the one true religion". (HA!) I think that what they stated that has NOT changed would be a shorter list.

  And, it still ANGERS me. They have damaged (and even destroyed) so many lives. And most assuredly, at least some of those "at the top" must KNOW they are LYING. The writers that use misleading quotes and "spin" the Old Light to New Light cannot be "in the dark" and innocent about all of the deception. No. They are liars.
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  DesirousOfChange

  That should end the disdusion.

  FINALLY! Something I can agree with: END THE DISCUSSION!

  It's a waste of time and energy. It just doesn't matter. Just go and live life to the fullest (for tomorrow you may die).

  “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!”
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  THE LONG ANTICIPATED INTERVIEW OF THE 2 NEW GB MEMBERS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/dxyjupnklgi?si=2ux5wokg57xdpaob.

  here we have the more indepth interview of the two new gb members jody jodele & jacob rumph and what jumps out to me is how borring they are, interestingly they don't go into detail when it dawned on them when they became anointed but they only go though their history and how they ended up in bethel.

  as we already know jody jodele is the real estate expert that will help the gb capitalise on all this real estate money and jacob rumph sounds he spend alot of time as a missionary in south america, maybe he will provide a more insightful understanding of that continent to the gb since no indigenous jw will be part of the gb anytime soon.now what strikes to me as odd is the examples they both sited as the bible characters they want to relate more with, and no it is not jesus.. these modern-day governing body of jehovah's witnesses seems to be leaning heavily on old testament figures like moses and gideon as their role models instead of focusing on jesus, which speaks volumes about the kind of organization they’re leading.

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  2024 year Highlights: JWs hit 9 million Publishers

  by Sanchy in

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  2. friends

  watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.

  average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.

  baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.

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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Cofty, don't do it.

  Don't waste your breath!

  Just move along folks.
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  Trump wins

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.

  i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.

  how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!

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  DesirousOfChange

  This whole billion dollar war chest now 20 million in debt.

  I sincerely hope there is an audit to see where a BILLION$ went. I suspect a lot of VERY EXPENSIVE salaries and no bid contracts to friends and families. Of course, it would just be a waste of money. Apparently you can hire your brother/husband for "protection" and pay 100'$ of 1000'$ from campaign funds and that's OK.
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  Biden calls Trump supporters garbage

  by moomanchu in

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  a comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???

  potus pappy joe to the rescue!!

  he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .

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  DesirousOfChange

  I'm sure they consider the photo-op a success as he didn't actually fall on is face.
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  2024 year Highlights: JWs hit 9 million Publishers

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtower put out some highlights for the 2024 service year:.

  average publishers: 8,828,124. peak publishers: 9,043,460. a 43.2 percent increase in "those who returned to jehovah", meaning 65,816 were reinstated.

  baptized: 296,267. memorial attendance: 21,119,442. missing stat: number of partakers .. womp womp.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Blondie's chart seems to indicate steady growth through the years, though slowing after 2016 (which was before Covid). I guess this is when there was considerable sell off of poorly producing (of contributions) congregations.

  IDK if I believe that number of congregations is that indicative of anything. All reports on attendance are that it is on a serious downtrend. ZOOM attendance is questionable as any kind of "attendance". I personally know some who admit they sign on, but without camera, and thus are able to go about with whatever task they really want to be doing -- watching TV, whatever, etc

  Clearly there is no zeal or urgency. The JWs I know personally and via reports from JW family are all vacationing big time. Nearly everyone has made at least one international vacation and very often they are to Europe. (That's probably a bigger deal for US citizens than others. Traveling to an international destination other than ie, Cancun is fairly expensive and a 10 hour flight.) You wouldn't know they are worried about the cost of milk and eggs.
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  As usual, when you pop the hood and look at the engine, you find out that instead of a Chevy all you got was a toy from Fischer-Price. ~ Sea Breeze

  I hope you haven't been talking to my wife!
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  What is Your Favorite WT Lie?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.

  surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.

  my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.

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  DesirousOfChange

  Thank you Sea Breeze. That is very informative. I have not seen anything that extensive in refuting the claim. I suspect no one else ever bothered to invest the time & effort into the matter.

  (Of course, my post was NOT in any way suggesting that the "Rhodes" claim had ANY real merit.)

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