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  My grandmother died

  by joelbear in

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  my mother's mother who was 97 died yesterday.

  i had not seen her in probably close to 20 years.

  she lived an odd existence.

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  LB

  Sorry to hear about grandma Joel. Even if you weren't close any death is a downer.

  Don't go if you really don't want to but were I in your shoes I'd go. I'd feel better about me for going. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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  How can I successfully Deprogram?

  by ikhandi in

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  for months i have been questioning in my mind whether i still believe what i was taught in this organization.

  my belief system is very much intact.

  i stopped using illegal drugs(this got me on the disfellow ship in the first place) i don't lie or steal, but still curse like crazy.

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  LB

  Brainwashing is an effective tool and it lingers for a long time but not forever. One of the tools used is faith. You felt you had faith in Jehovah. Now maybe you'll begin to realize that your faith was more with the society than with Jehovah.

  Keep yourself busy both mentally and physically. Your faith in the organization has already begun to break down. Time will assist it more. Do not ever read their mindless attempts to keep you brainwashed. Also do not just read anti JW literature. Widen out.

  Think also of this if you still believe in Jehovah. Would he want you to be a member of an organization that uses emotional blackmail to control it's members? Or an organization that protects child molestors? That may help you to break down that old faith you have.
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  Just finished my DA letter

  by pr_capone in

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  well.... after talking alot about doing it but never actually doing it, i have decided to go ahead and write up my da letter.

  dear mr. grier:.

  my name is eremic granell, you know me as eric rowe.

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  LB

  Nicely written letter Eric. When I wrote mine there was a huge sense of relief. When my name was announced there was a milisecond of doubt but that went quickly away. Actually since my DA letter I have been approached by more JW"s than when I was just inactive. Interesting isn't it? Many more witnesses are thinking about the society and I believe every time a name is announced they have to just wonder why.
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  Were You Depressed Because You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  it seems that many people here have been greatly depressed because they were or still are jehovah's witnesses.

  what about you?

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  LB

  Not at first. But then as I began to realize that I wasn't doing enough (as we were always told) I got depressed. But the bigger depression kicked in when I discovered the truth was all BS. I really felt bad about getting my family involved. Since my son is still in I still feel guilty, not so depressed, but guilty.
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  "Dead conscious of nothing at all" .....

  by anti-absolutism in

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  when speaking to a jw the other day, i didn't really have a good explanation of ecclesiastes 9:5, where it says that the dead are conscious of nothing at all.. what is everybody's take on it?

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  LB

  They use that scripture to reinforce their belief that there is no literal hell for bad people or heavenly hope for good people. It's just to mean we die and lay there dead in the ground until the resurrection. Well that's what they think anyway.

  What are you doing talking to JW's? Don't you know you are supposed to be careful of your association?

  I think it means that brain dead people are conscious of nothing at all. They left out the brain part.
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  Senior Sex

  by patio34 in

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  i thought the following from from our posthuman future by francis fukuyama was very interesting: .

  "one writer states: 'one of the factors inhibiting sexuality with ageing is undoubtedly the brain-washing that all of us experience which says that the older person is less sexually attractive.

  ' would that sexuality were only a matter of brainwashing!

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  LB

  If sex was just for having children then why does it feel so darn good?

  Seniors get all their bodies will allow.
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  JWs Must Give Up KISSING - NOW!

  by Francois in

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  please direct your attention to the current issue of discovery magazine.

  as we all know, there is considerable exchange of this precious bodily fluid among people who kiss, i.e., everyone.

  of course among jws that's supposed to include only the married or soon to be.

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  LB

  So that means the brothers will be able to get busy without having to delay any impending actions with that silly kissing stuff? No more foreplay?

  Jah is good
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  Disassociating myself ...

  by dedalus in

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  well, it had to come to this eventually.. this winter my wife and daughter and i celebrated christmas with my in-laws, with whom we currently live (high school english teachers don't make much money!).

  my in-laws have been inactive for about two years, and this year, they decided to celebrate the holidays.

  one reason for this is that their son, who is eight, has multiple disabilities -- can't see, trouble hearing, other, quite sever, issues -- and christmas, with its presents and wrapping and loud carols and trees and wreaths is, well, a very accessible experience for him, the way, say, my kingdom ministry and the watchtower are not.. well, as a household we went all out.

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  LB

  Nothing is so important as a judicial meeting. Nothing. Have you remember that right???? Great elders there.

  Teejay curious thread to piss on.
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  At what age do you plan to retire?

  by JH in

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  so many people start working young in life, and expect to retire around 58 years old.

  some even retire much before that.

  but so many witnesses never expected to reach that age in this system.

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  LB

  After 32 years in a union I retired at age 50. But I have elected to not collect my pension until I'm 62 which is 6 years away. I've got a couple of investments which keep me afloat, although just barely.

  I know a lot of JW"s that will have to work until they die. Very sad.
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  What Do You Do to Relax?

  by cruzanheart in

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  i am hereby, for the next 24 hours at least, swearing off all serious topics.

  yesterday was a brain-fry day, what with the harassment stuff, a call from our medicaid lawyer regarding my mother's application (not good news), doing bills, and fleeing to the gym at lunch only to find out i've gained two pounds since last week.. today at lunch i am going shopping by myself.

  i am going to my favorite resale/antique clothing shop down the street and see if i can find something eye-popping for the apostafest.

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  LB

  There is no relaxing. Plenty of time to relax when I'm dead.