i'm just curious.
how many of you were elders or ministerial servants or pioneers?
were you an elder or ms or pioneer when you realized it wasn't the truth or a had you stepped down already, were you "weak" when you realized it?
Well I also regular pioneered for 8 years. Special pioneered where the need was great for two years. Also a darn good elderette..if I say so myself...Man whoever fudged their hours..what a great idea!!! Shows the borg didn't scare the heck out of you like the most of us. I was afraid that the all seeing and knowing would find out. Boy what a crock!!!! What a waste of precious years!!!
Leslie
hi friends, my father died saturday morning.
i want to happily say that i sent my dad a print-out of some of your key material re;org, last week and he read it all...witnesses were 'on his back' lately, and he appreciated it.
keep up the positive focus..it is so important..i wanted to write more, but i guess i'm in shock 'cause i just can't do it...thanks to all of you for your support and help with all the stuff that i've been on the board about..peace and love to all of you and your families..nk
Nancy;
I am so sorry to hear about your loss. Everyone here is thinking of you and your family.
Leslie
does the wt and jw big boys tolerate alcoholism among themselves?.
alcohol is very popular among jw heavy-weights and their wives.
ask any bethelite.
Well my JW elder, annointed (or so he says) ex-husband is an alcoholic. I went to the brothers repeatedly for 10 years to get him somekind of help. I will quote what was said to me by the elder body. "You are just to sensitive about alcohol use." "He goes to work and makes the meetings he couldn't have a problem." The only ones that saw his alcohol abuse was "worldly people." When I got divorced many people came to me and said, " I can't believe you lived with that drunk for so many years." The elders see what they want to see. Oh by the way he is still a JW elder who professes to be of the annointed. Says he is sober...Yeah right.
Leslie
think that farting and burping are sooooooooo funny????????
my son will be 9 in jan and my bf's nephew is the same age only 2 weeks later than my son's birthday.
my son (jessie) and chris (the nephew) stayed over for a couple days.
Well this certainly is the funniest thread that I have read in along time!!!! You know when you think of it, we even call the male species gas names. I call my husband sometimes an old fart. He calls some little boys in our neighborhood..Those dang little farts are at it again. So it really has to be a guy thing. They never outgrow letting loose!!!
Leslie
they don't trust - for good reason.
they have dysfunctional relationships - for good reason.
but all victims need professional help.
Dear Lady, it was a wonderfully written thought out post. Thanks for beginning it!! And thanks to all those that participated.
Leslie
for years i started a conversation with ......i am __xxx_____ and i am a salesman for__xxx____!!.
after being fired from a couple of jobs and while being unemployed i realized that i am much more than just a career person....many people get caught up in this.....many when they first meet you will ask, "what do you do" ?????.
i think all of us are much more than just a working stiff.
Well I think that when it is all said and done...most people will not remember what we did for a living they will remember who we are and the kind of person that we are. I tell everyone that what I do for a living is not my identity. It is a part of me, but the most important part of my life is my relationships with others. Just my two cents.
Leslie
for years i started a conversation with ......i am __xxx_____ and i am a salesman for__xxx____!!.
after being fired from a couple of jobs and while being unemployed i realized that i am much more than just a career person....many people get caught up in this.....many when they first meet you will ask, "what do you do" ?????.
i think all of us are much more than just a working stiff.
I had an interesting experience a few years back..made me think. I was responsible for running a domestic violence shelter for many years. A young teenage girl was there with her mom. My supervisor came to do an inspection of the building. This young girl stopped me and asked who that was. I told her she was the director of human services and my boss. She looked at me funny and said I didn't ask you what she did I asked you who she was??? She then said older people just can't get by without always telling each other what they did for a living. She also told me...man I wonder if any of you really know each other!!! Wise young women. Now when someone asks me that question I tell them about who the person is, not the job title. That always seems to start an interesting conversation, or they just walk away.
Leslie
this is an issue that i've had to look into due to the extreme paranoia of my mother.
it's getting ridiculous.
and it get's worse everytime she reads the publications.
Dear Nickey;
My heart goes out to you!!! I would suggest that if indeed she continues to behave this way when she begins you need to call a mental health crisis hotline. Explain to the worker what your mother is saying etc. They can issue a 945 pick-up order. That will send the police to pick her up. In this way it gets you out of the picture. If your grandfather or anyone else says you are wrong then tell them that they need to come and live with her because you no longer can tolerate living with someone that has mental health issues that everyone is in denial over.
Dear you have been a martyr long enough. You need your own life. Your mothers mental health issues will take over your life so that you no longer have one. That is exactly what she and your family wants. If she keeps telling you that she is going to kill herself you need to tell her that she is the only one that can make decisions about her life you are in no way responsible for her actions. It is a manipulation tactic that she is using to hold you hostage. Don't forget that she needs help. Walking away might be the only way that she will get the help that she needs. Please think of your own stability and your own happiness. My thoughts are with you.
Leslie
since i am free from the chains of the wt and their rules, i am becoming so much more open minded to looking into other forms of spiritulity.
i just read comf's thread about his wicca experience and it was soooo interesting .
i know many on this board have their own way of dealing with their need for spirituality.
I also feel that I have not kept in touch with any spiritual side once I walked away from the borg. I still feel kinda weird about it. Church's just do not cut it for me. I have become a real sceptic. I have gone to the Universal Unitarian Church and felt that was nice. Basically you can believe what you want. You might want to try that one. It blends Christianity, Judiasm, Native American, Eastern beliefs. They kinda talk about all of them. They have great songs that they sing.
I work for the Salvation Army so in a way I think that helps me fill that part of me. I do not belong to their church but believe in the philosophy of their beliefs. They do not care about your ethnicity, sexual orientation, education etc. They just want to help the needy. Works for me.
Leslie
to fellow posters, friends and lurkers,
with thankful hearts.
we lift a prayer.
How very thoughtful of you to post such a nice greeting. Hope you both have a wonderful holiday and happy new year!!!!
Leslie
