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  Remember When They Used to Have Q&A After the Public Talk?

  by daniel-p in

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  yeah, that was before my time.

  but i'm interested to hear from those who were around back in the day when they did this.

  what were the questions like?

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  Lieu

  Yeah, that all stopped sometime in the early 80's.

  Now that I am aware of the situation, I think most things stopped after the Franz "incident".
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  What Was YOUR Worst Quality As A JW?

  by minimus in

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  for me it had to be that i was trained to be judgmental.

  i'm naturally a person who doesn't believe everything someone says---just because they say it's true.

  still, a "good elder" is supposed to be watchful of what might "contaminate" the congregation.. so, it's time to bare your soul.

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  I refused to make fun of other people. General non-conformist type A.

  I had my own thoughts which didn't coincide with "group think"; that seemed to piss people off.

  I also like to ask questions 'cause I thought I was supposed to be learning stuff ... My bad.
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  Witnesses Who Were Hypocrites!

  by minimus in

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  some jws truly believe and live their faith.

  but many witnesses lived double lives or spoke one way in front of the congregation but privately, they were just the opposite.. i knew an elder and his wife who owned a liquor/convenience store.

  they sold tobacco and lottery tickets but claimed that the real owner of the business was the wife's "worldly" father, which was hogwash.. were there any real hypocrites that you knew about?.

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  Lieu

  Sooo many, tooo many.

  The pretense is beyond reasonable. Its like having a zillion "iffy" baptist holier than thou preachers in one place. At least the baptist preachers will get up and ask the whole congregation for forgiveness when something happens, JWs will not and aren't allowed to.

  Had an PO in a cong run pretty much by his family who used to get drunk and beat his daughter black and blue. His brother (also an elder) had sons who cursed like sailors and would start fights any time we all went to some amusement park. [They're either in Bethel now or MS]. Back at the hall, of course, they were the perfect picture of whatever. Had an entire BOE once get the boot because they were all "swingers" (wife swappers). Had a married MS that was a pedophile. Cheaters, scammers, and on and on.

  The few decent people simply looked like deers caught by headlights.
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  Coffee drinkers, rejoice! Coffee is NOT bad for you!

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-he-coffee18-2009may18,0,7483815.column.

  from the los angeles times.

  read this over coffee.

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  Lieu

  C O F F E E

  Coffee is for me ...

  ....

  Thanks to a cofee cup, I won't give coffee up.

  Nothing natural is bad for you in moderation, its the additives that damage.
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  I guess we are all heretics.........

  by awildflower in

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  it always amazes me how expendable we are to this organization.

  especially if you are the mom of unbaptized children and the wife to the 'unbeliever'.

  in my experience, i was let go and forgotten quite easily (although i get the feeling it might not be over!).

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  Lieu

  Do they even know your name?

  It always amazed me how Paul when sending greetings actually knew people's names, both male and female.

  You should know that if both partners are not JW, you will not be as 'included' as the two-fers (unless you are male). Even with males it can be kind of iffy.
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  The end the system of things

  by purplesofa in

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  2. beliefs

  when exactly is the end?.

  i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.

  " matt 28:20. .

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  Lieu

  The Judaic way of life.

  Its gone. No Temple (just a rubbled wall), no Arc, no burnt sacrafices, no human King, no knowledge of tribal descent ... nothing ... poof.
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  If Jehovah could tell Noah he Would Use Water To Destroy People, Why can't He tell Us what Will be Used At Armageddon?

  by african GB Member in

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  any ideas?.

  gb.

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  Lieu

  Fire.
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  $6,600 Expenses For a One-Day Assembly At a Fully-Paid-Up Hall? WTF!

  by Room 215 in

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  2. bible

  the wife just got back from a one-day special circuit meeting (or whatever they call it) at the regional assembly hall.

  it's got a capacity of about 1,200, fully paid for, staffed by volunteers and in use for less than eight hours.

  then the guy making the announcement tells the crowd that the one-day expenses for the gig was about $6,600 (?!!!)...

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  Lieu

  .... Yep and JDR used his snare and racket to set up a rather comfortable life for his cigar smoking book selling alcoholic self.
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  Why do you think Jesus never wrote anything down?

  by journey-on in

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  if his message was to be followed like a rule book, wouldn't he have written down some things with his own hand?.

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  and Josephus' mentioning of Christians.
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  Why do you think Jesus never wrote anything down?

  by journey-on in

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  if his message was to be followed like a rule book, wouldn't he have written down some things with his own hand?.

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  Lieu

  Only God knows the day and hour. No one else knows, not even the Son.

  Those who consider themselves "wise" are supposed to be confused. Good for filtering out 'false prophets'.

  Plus it apparently wasn't in the plan for him to be a novelist. Teachers speak and students take notes.