wha happened?
That is also a biggie after actually reading the Bible and looking at the /apostles/disciples/elders therein position toward everyone else.
The real and early Christian stance is quite different than the JW stance.
Posts by Lieu
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82Most Annoying Things That Happen At JW Meetings
by LittleSister intoday i was remembering how angry i used to get at the meetings and all the little irritations that in the end would just make my blood boil these included:.
prayers that go on foreverstudy or wt conductors still taking comments when its clear that the point has been covered 20 times alreadymeetings over running by more than 5 minsmy favourite was this one elder who would play guess the point i am thinking of.
he would keep rephrasing the question from the wt until someone would bring up the point he was thinking of.
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If there is a God, is he an atheist?
by DT inof course, any god would believe in himself, but would he believe in someone greater than himself?
would he postulate an external cause for the realm in which he lives?
you might expect that a hypothetical god would be all knowing, so he would know if there is another greater god, but he couldn't know if there is another realm that he doesn't and can't know about.
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Lieu
God is God and according to the Bible has one mediator (his son) that he thought well of & appointed to such a position ... the men who want to be mediator are in the way & false. They didn't die for anyone's sins & they go against the arrangements. They're useless and not appointed to be in such a position.
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Most Annoying Things That Happen At JW Meetings
by LittleSister intoday i was remembering how angry i used to get at the meetings and all the little irritations that in the end would just make my blood boil these included:.
prayers that go on foreverstudy or wt conductors still taking comments when its clear that the point has been covered 20 times alreadymeetings over running by more than 5 minsmy favourite was this one elder who would play guess the point i am thinking of.
he would keep rephrasing the question from the wt until someone would bring up the point he was thinking of.
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Lieu
Using the Quaker term "friends" to death.
People with lively manners speaking in a borish monotone. Leading one to belive the worship of God and acknowledgement of Jesus sacrifice is supposed to be boring.
Brothers talking "at" everyone instead of "to" everyone.
Speaking in third person like one is having an out of body experience.
Taking scriptures totally out of context or leaving off the most important parts.
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2010 - Year of the Governing Body?
by lepermessiah inlet me explain by what i am getting at without sounding like captain obvious!
i am actually excited about this since i think this could help assist a ton of people out of this organization!!.
i believe that the governing body is stepping up efforts to emphasize their unconditional rulership - every wt study article seems to make reference to their authority.
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Lieu
Any human 'rulership' is Satanic according to the Bible. Even by their own standards the rulership will be in heaven, not on earth.
Those teaching differently are from Satan.
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Were you totally petrified to question the teaching of the dubs?
by MsDucky ini look back now and think what the hell was wrong with me?
it's just so crazy to be so blind.
everytime, i'd think that this or that wasn't quite right, i'd think i was committing blasphemy.. it's sad to know that's why many people are still stuck in that religion..
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Lieu
No. They're just men, nothing more, nothing less.
Teach implies learn and learn implies questions.
Paul went to speak about some in the Jeruselem group inappropriately teaching gentiles should be circumsized ... that should be pause for thought. Good thing he wasn't a punk and too afraid to say something. His fear was that of God not of men.
JWs fear men & the majority rely on pleasing men, not God.
Jesus never said he was returning "invisibly", men did. Jesus never said the heavens were shut up in 1935, men did. Jesus didn't say you need to write down how much time you spend talking to people, men did. Jesus isn't trying to guess the date of the big A, men are.
Ever notice the Apostle Paul, et al never disparged the Greeks or Romans for their idols and false gods? They simply used their religious nature to turn people to the true God by speaking about the good news. They never lashed out but implored believers to live a decent life full of good deeds where people had no bad things to say about them and maybe it would win some people over.
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Which Jerusalem was Luke referring to
by wannabe in{matthew 24:9,22} revelation 12:17} {hebrews 11:32-40}.
they have been trampled on now for almost six thousand years.
{luke 4:5-8} {revelation 13:1}.
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Lieu
besides being boring, that's too long to read
.... and no one here is interested in being "preached at" by false prophets.
We're here to have real conversations, not boring lectures about unscriptual invisible returns which contradict the Bible's "every eye will see him" and make God's word worthless. Go away liar!
Does anyone think the Apostles were such bores?
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Jehovah's Witnesses---A Religion That Does Nothing For Anyone
by minimus inthe reality is: jehovah's witnesses benefit no one but themselves!.
they don't contribute to society.
they refuse to get involved in local interests because that would constitute violating their neutrality.. if sexual abuse allegations are made amongst their members, unless two witnesses can attest to the molestation, they refuse to get the "superior authorities" involved.. they claim to be doing their neighbors a "life saving" work but the reality is that they simply are pests to their "householders".. they are a tax free "religion" and they do not pay taxes.. they are judgmental people and regard the "world" as "worldly" and in the "power of the wicked one".. and if the individual members do not conform to the organization's dictates, they might very well be "shunned" and regarded as "dead".. why anyone would want to be a jehovah's witness is beyond me..
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Lieu
The religion sucks the life out of its followers.
More like it kills the spirit and sucks the joy out of followers.
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Does ANYTHING About JWs Make Sense To You?
by minimus ini've been thinking about why people become jehovah's witnesses and why they remain in the religion.. it seems like almost everything they believe in is flawed.. the chronology, which this religion is founded on is a problem.. their understanding of bible prophecy is pathetically funny.
they teach everything in prophetic bible books ultimately apply to them.. their belief that the "faithful & discreet slave class" exists is ridiculous.
in all fairness, they cannot 'prove" anything they say about their organization as being "truth".
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Lieu
I didn't see it as much different than the Catholic Church they used to rail about. There was the actual Bible and then there was dogma. There was a heirarchy in place.No one was equal as simply "brothers" in the cause.
There were good folk who really cared about others and there were crappy folk who could care less.
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Lets talk football - UK. Soccer - US
by jambon1 ini come from what i consider to be one of the finest cities on earth.
edinburgh, scotland.. i love the place.
every day i drive along narrow roads that tourists flock to in the summertime.. cobbled streets dating back hundreds of years.. my great, great, great, great x4 grandparents have walked the same streets.
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Lieu
Barcelona. The City was founded by and is named after Hannibal's father. They resisted Franco like a mothersucker & 'Cuase they've had some of the best players on earth traverse through their club ... and they're mostly little short guys who play like their behinds off.
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Does a satanic cult control the world?
by Weeping in"some of the biggest men in the united states, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something.
they know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
" woodrow wilson, the new freedom (1913) in march, svali, an ex-illuminati mind controller wrote: "there is a lot more going on in the suburbs around washington, dc than most people realize," she described how the illuminati cult brainwashed and trained people to become assassins.
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Does a satanic cult control the world?
Yep, but it isn't the Illuminati, its the Smurfs.
There is a group of the most greedy, but they aren't all that smart; just plain ruthless and haughty.