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  Elders killed my cat

  by spike in

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  in the late 70's, i began experiencing health problems.

  the elders wanted to know if i purchased anything new, thinking i was under demon attack.

  the only thing new in our household was a kitten.

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  Lindy

  I am so sorry about your kitten. I have never heard of anything this awful up until now. How old were you at the time? At any age this would make you sick but if you were very young this must have been really terrible for you to deal with.

  The 70's was fraught with "demons". They were everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. They were not just in houses, but in card tables, ashtrays, cameras, clothing, old books, couches, doors, games, toys. You name it, it had a demon in it. Old stuff was prime target for demons. They looovvved old things. Ever wonder why JWs back them had NO antique furniture? If a JW was having any problem that couldn't be solved almost immediately then "demons" had to be lurking somewhere close.
  My first husband and I were having lots of problems in the 70's. The elders told me to "clean house". So thinking that my older sister, not a JW, who visited fortune tellers had something to do with it, I took and threw our all the things that she had brought me from her vacations to Mexico. I then took all the old books that my father liked to collect and had given me, and put them out in the garage, disposing of them later.
  Such a relief! Now things would get better, right? Nothing improved over time. I still had the same husband, but all my special possesions were gone. As time told, I should have gotten rid of the husband sooner than I did, not the "demons"! LOL!
  It was indeed a crazed "demon" period of time. The JWs still have the "demon" thing going, but nothing like the 70's!! I guess it may have had something to do with the expectance of Armeggedon at any moment...with Satan running rampant and his demons looking to stumble any and all JWs! LOL

  Still...I am so sorry about your kitten. I wonder if doing that deed still haunts the elders who participated. It should. I bet they feel like fools now!
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  What happened to "Jehovah's Christian Witn...

  by blondie in

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  i have noticed in using the wt-cd that the use of the terms "jehovah's christian witnesses" and "christian witnesses of jehovah" dropped dramatically after 1980. is there a reason for that?

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  Lindy

  From what I know and understand there was a splinter group who called themselves "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" in Florida and they were getting people who were actually "Jehovah's Witnesses" coming to their Halls and getting them upset at the different teachings. It was even drawing some JWs away. I had heard the big thing was that if you go on vacation in Florida and you are looking for a Kingdom Hall, to be careful where you go and watch out for the actual name of the Hall. So that might be the cause of the change. Like I said, this is hearsay for me and I have no proof. But the time frame is right.

  If I am not mistaken you can find this group on line. I saw a site for them once but you had to register to get in.

  Lindy
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  Wow of poverty, Brooklyn style

  by Norm in

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  as we all know, the most important thing any human being can do, is to peddle watchtower literature to the unsuspecting public, preferably full time.

  well, it is because time is so incredibly short.

  no one really has the time to have a job, an education, a career, in short a life!

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  Lindy

  Mommie,

  You must have really had dumb JWs when you asked the question, "How long is 'always'? Is post-Armageddon part of 'always'?", as far as Jesus saying that the poor would always be with us.

  My answer would have been, as taught by the WTBTS, that the Bible was written for our time before the big A, to get us through to the "New System" when "new scrolls will be opened", and so the "poor" would would only be "with us" until God's "New System" took over.

  For those who do not know, I no longer believe this stuff, so my writing is not in defense, but in awe of the stupidity, of the average JW who was stumped by this particular question. As I a Jdub I was not brilliant by any toss of the coin, but could have answered that one. So where does that place all the other Jdubs who couldn't? I was born "in", so maybe the problem lies with the type of people who are "drawn" to this Organization and come in on their own?

  Lindy
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  Fighting the Internet

  by terraly in

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  apparently the taliban agrees with the watchtower on the evils of free information:.

  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010713/wr/tech_afghan_internet_dc_1.html.

  in some ways afghanistan is a good glimpse at what "theocratic government" under the watchtower would be like.

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  I guess they want the same thing that the WTBTS, and what most other religions want...CONTROL!

  Quote from the article:

  "''We want to establish a system in Afghanistan through which we can control all those things that are wrong, obscene, immoral and against Islam,'' he said."

  Lindy
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  Why did you get baptized?

  by NoLongerAjw in

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  was it for love of the kingdom hall and jehovah?

  pressure .. felt like you had to?

  for me it was because all my friends my age had gotten baptized.. and it was left up to me to do it too.. to fit in i guess.

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  Lindy

  I was baptized at 16, just days before my 17th BD. My younger brother was baptized a few years before and all the ones around my age had already been dunked. The Brother that was the PO at the time was supposed to go over the questions with me and never did. I found out later that he was having his own "crisis of conscience" and subsequently left the "truth". I should have followed my instincts and not let everyone push me into baptism. I never did feel the need. But my Mom and by brother (Who is now DF.) really pushed, along with my peers so I went and did it anyway. Years later I explained this to the Elders and asked if I needed to get baptised again and they discussed it and said "No, it was valid anyway." Never really understood that either. But who can understand many things about how the brothers and the Society does things.

  Lindy
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  IMPORTANT message for Dunsscot

  by Mommie Dark in

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  i've noticed you are already having trouble finding enough obfuscatory language with which to dazzle the peasants.

  i wanted to ameliorate your situation, since you seem to think using grandiloquent words lends weight to your ideas.

  so here is a link for you, i hope you find it useful.

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  Lindy

  Mommie!

  Thanks! I can now use this to stump everyone at Scrabble! I can also use it to throw in a few words here and there to impress the instructors and professors at college this fall. Cool site. Where doooo you find these things?

  Lindy, going off to clean out her acronyx. (I don't really have one, just thought it'd be cool to say it!) (Even the spell check doesn't get this one! LOL)
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  Which meeting was the hardest to attend for you ?

  by NoLongerAjw in

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  for me i think it was the sunday meeting.. just wanting to stay home and sleep in.. but i think the watchtower study was the hardest to sit threw... you had to have it studied before hand.. and highlighted.. then sit there and listen to it all over again..

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  Lindy

  From the time I was a little kid the worst meeting for me was the Book Study. I hated it with all my might. Boring people, so few, and not near as many distractions as the bigger meetings. It seemed no one ever studied and the same people always answered and there were always the silences on the material no one wanted to comment on or if the study material was to hard, like in the Babylon Book and a couple others. I used to take colored pencils as a kid and teen, and color in the pictures as the study droned on and on.
  One period of time the study was interesting for me, when I was 16. I had a crush on one of the young brothers there and he always sat next to me and we whispered and giggled alot through the meetings, dispite our mother's darting looks... Some memories are good...

  Lindy
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  Objection by an elder

  by cnn77 in

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  i approached one of the elders with some of my doubts..... i mildly pointed to the fact that the wtbs had been errent in it's prediction of 1975 as well as some of the other "new light" issues.. his response was one which i have heard many times before: "the society is made up of imperfect men.

  interestingly, in 99% of cases most witnesses will accept this explanation and feel guilty for questining a their fellowman ( the humaistic side of the organisation is unconscioulsy impressed onto the mid of the questioner).

  at least that is how it has worked on me - until recently.. the next time i am fed this line of reasoning i would like to ask the following question: "ok brother elder, i accept that they are not perfect.

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  Lindy

  "Has this cop-out answer by the elders been used on you yet?"

  so many times, I don't care to think how many. This same excuse has been used on things I have pointed out the the Elders have done to me, my family and many others in the congregations I have been in. One congregations elders in particular had so many crappy elders that they all started avoiding me so I wouldn't bring out more of their faults on how they treated their "flock" with the Societies own publications in my hands for proof of what I said.
  I finally just gave up after many years of trying to make the point of how they were damaging so many, young ones and pioneers in particualr. And they wonder why so many left so young? They were blinder than bats when it came to the fact that they were supposed to be sheppards and slaves to the flock and "not lording it over" them.

  Lindy
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  Re : Did you help build a KH ????

  by ladonna in

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  i don't know about the rest of you but i was one of the stupid ones lugging bricks around and cleaning them up for the jw's shortly before i left.. how many others here have done the same???.

  how many of us have at one time been construction workers for the borg???.

  esther...you set my brain working on this one with your thread .

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  Lindy

  Ladonna,

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  "Lindy: Glad you had 'fun', but like the rest of us you were nothing more than a useful servant....slave....whatever word suits. "

  I understand what you were saying, that is why I said that they got my free labor too. But at the time, while in with the JW thinking, in some 40 plus years, and with people that I did like, I did have fun. Nothing wrong with that. I doubt, that no matter what the circumstances, that we all had some sort of fun while we were in the Borg. I am sorry that that when I used the word fun, that upset you somehow. I found it strange that you had to comment on that.I don't think that saying I had fun doing what I was doing in no way takes away from the negative situation of being used in many ways by the Society. I was sharing a memory, like you.
  Must have hit a nerve for you somehow. But I did have fun lots of times doing lots of things while connected with the JWs. That is why I used the word "fun". I see no need to forget those times while talking about the negative things too. AND I have TONS and TONS of those horror stories like everyone else. But I don't choose to forget the good times and just remember the bad times. I took a small offense in you suggesting that I used the wrong word, just wanted to clear the air. I know that you meant nothing bad by it.

  Lindy
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  How old do you feel

  by Scorpion in

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  take the test.

  > http://www.frontiernet.net/~cdm/age1.html

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  Lindy

  Thanks! [8>] Just needed to remember how VERY old I am! LOL! fun sight.

  Lindy