Posts by lisaBObeesa

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Young Pioneer Sister desperate for assistance..any advice?

by Gill in

i have a son aged 19. he's a bit of a handsome devil at the best of times and the young ladies have always been ... how can i put it nicely.... fond of him.

but having said that he's always very friendly with everyone.

we used to go to a congregation a few miles from where we live now when he was a tiny child and he was friendly with the kids there.

lisaBObeesa

Every situation is different, but.......

......... when I was 18 I sure did know I wanted out. I consider the person who helped me realize I could move out of my parent's house and start my life on the right foot, an angel sent from god! She really helped me out. (Thanks, Annie!)

By then, it was already over for me and the JWs. I just didn't know how to get out on my own and survive. Plus, my parents were making it almost impossible because they kept charging me for everything so I could never save the money to get out. My friend gave me encouragement, helped me out and gave me a place to stay for a couple of months so I could get on my feet. And then I was on my own.

It was difficult, no doubt about it. But I would never trade those first hard years on my own for a few more years in my parent's home being a fake JW.

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Angry letter to my nephew and his wife

by confusedjw in

i've changed all the names.

should i send it?

any suggestions you have are welcome.

lisaBObeesa

ConfusedJW,

This story is so sad......It makes me want to go kick those people's @sses!!!!!!!

I think that is a good letter.

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Help needed with kids

by jwNOT in

i was raised in a very strict jw home.

some of it was downright abusive.

now i am a mother with 4 children.

lisaBObeesa

I tend to not follow through on punishments because I am so afraid of making my children feel the same way I did as a child.

This is just the trap I fell into. I didn't want to hurt my kids like I was hurt, so I went way too far in the other direction.

You MUST follow through with consequenses. This is the whole key. The consequenses do not have to be, and should not be, abusive or terrible, but they must be CONSITENTLY inforced.

You do not have to yell at them. You do not have to hit them. You do not have to try to guilt them into things.

You do have to make sure the children know that you love them, AND, if they do A... B WILL happen. Everytime. The moment A happens, no matter how tired you are, B will happen. This is the hard work of the parent. But it will pay off. Your children will thank you.

They have to know the rules,

and

They have to know the conseqences for breaking the rules.

It is not easy at first to change these patterns you are talking about, especially when you came form homes like ours! We don't know what this kind of loving, consistent parenting looks like! But you can do it! And it will work and you will feel better and your kids will feel better.

Being consistent every time, all the time seems like alot of work. But really it much more exahusting to do things the old way.

Parenting classes. They are offered many places. I can't recommend them enough.

If you don't learn how to do this now, it will get worse. Much, much worse. Your children are depending on you!

You can do it!!!

WELCOME TO THE BOARD!! Please tell us your JW story sometime!

-LisaBOBeesa

(PS Have you ever watched "Nanny 911" on Fox Tuesday nights? Good show about parenting problems and solutions! Will give you hope! )

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How did you feel when you learned it was all a lie?

by what_Truth? in

bit of background.

i grew up as a jw i left the church when i was 14 because a ministerial servant who was conducting a one on one baptism study with me said that i couldn't ballance my dreams of being a professional singer with the so called "truth".

i stopped the study and told my mom i no longer wanted to be a witness.

lisaBObeesa

Fist I was sure it was not the truth, and I felt frustrated to be stuck in it as a young person.

I believed the people in the org who 'made the rules' just had made a few mistakes. I believed some of the teachings, but some I knew were big mistakes. Errors. As in, "Oooops!" Boy, that GB was sure gonna be embarrassed some day!

Next, when I became old enough, I got out and felt happy and free!!!!

Then, I did some research on a few things, and found that these were not MISTAKES, they were LIES.

And then I felt SHOCKED. And Angry. Really, really angry.

It was like finding out you were on one of those trick reality TV shows, and finding out nothing had been real.

"Guess what, Lisa? You though you were on this show trying to win a million dollars, right? And you think you won right? You think you figured it out, right? In fact, you have spent your whole life struggling with this religion/game and now you think you have it figured out. (***me: huge excited grin** ) Well, I have to tell you, we LIED TO YOU. ( ****me: grin gone***) Just to mess with you. Just to get you do crazy stuff for us. You really don't win anything, because none of this is real. Thanks for being a great sport about it all!"

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SCORE = 11 US, 8 THEM

by bikerchic in

jw
friends

i added up all the imediate members of my family who have left the b'org and more have left then remain.

this was promped by a conversation i had lastnight with my son who told me about a jw kid from his past got in contact with him out of the blue and she was telling him how many in her family were now df'ed and never planning on returning.

we were really surprised because she was an elder's daughter and one of the last people you would think would leave.. so what is your family score?

lisaBObeesa

3 out, 2 in

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Verses deleted and Mangled by the Watchtower

by AWAKEJWS in

*col 1:16: nwt: because by mean of him all [other] things were created.

but the watchtower changed the word ?god?

*re 1:11 nwt: these words deleted completely.. .

lisaBObeesa

I'm sure you members can utilize this list during your witnessing with JWs. I am still researching other verses. If you have more, please add it to this list.

From the above, I think Awakejws knows we are exJWs here and has done some research that he is sharing with us..

You obviously spent some time time in putting that info together. Perhaps your time may be better well spent in volunteering to a community charity. That book you quote from is as useful as the piece of TP you wiped your bum with.
Move along now and be useful.

...why ya gotta be a hater, xjw_b12? It's this person's first post, for gosh sakes, give 'em a break!

Welcome , AWAKEJWS. You need to have a thick skin when posting about Bible related topics around here. Someone is always bound to come around and put you down for believing. Don't take it personally. There are alot people in pain around here and sometimes they lash out.

-LisaBOBeesa

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