Posts by LovesDubs

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Pioneer hours change

by JWFreak in

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it's just a label who cares

Isnt it true that when you sign up to be a pioneer that you have to swear to book those required hours every month? Why would ANYBODY commit to 100, 90 or even now...50 hours of WASTING TIME every month? I mean puhleeze...hasnt anybody noticed how entirely USELESS field service actually is in terms of success?

Every time anything changes in there the faithful get all excited because it is in fact like watching paint dry. Even if its a fly getting STUCK in the paint that you are watching dry...its a change from the humdrum, mind numbing existence they lead.

When they actually DROP the requirement of reporting the hours...THEN I will have considered some progress as having been made.

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Why the GB/Borg should be afraid, very afraid of JWD closing.

by avishai in

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it's already happening.

cut the head off the hydra (just an analogy) and more pop up, exponentially.

whenever a leader gets taken down by an occupier, their job gets way harder because tons more warlords pop up.

LovesDubs

Personally I am of the opinion that they should FEAR THEMSELVES and we are small potatoes. They are imploding. THEY treat people like crap. THEY keep people from being educated. THEY impose Pharisaical rules on their masses. THEY are loveless, Godless and self important...

JWD...a great place to read about what you already suspected was happening around you as a JW. A confirmation that it is indeed time to GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE.

And the information that will be sitting here...that they CANNOT post to and argue with hehehehe....is invaluable.

LD

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Judicial Committee formed, can they do that with only one "witness"?

by BonaFide in

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i have started to read about cults with the book by steve hassan.

i look over my shoulder at the library, no way in the world i will check it out or buy it and take it home.

thank you all for your recommendations.

LovesDubs

Something is seriously wrong here. First you sound VERY young. Second there is no way you would be a presiding overseer or a circuit overseer without first being an MS and and Elder for a long time and there is therefore, no way you would be asking these questions since you would have first hand experience with how judicial committees work. And your behavior with the sisters seems less than credible as well since your behavior as an elder is supposed to be above reproach.

maybe you could clarify

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Teacher sexually assulted me...........what do you think

by Jesika in

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in your opinon......................should i go through with it..................................(hi simon.....long time).

on august 4th of 2008 at approximately 8:00-8:10am i was coming from the front office after receiving a green sheet for being absent on thursday, july 31st 2008. i was passing the women's restroom on my way back to class, when i saw steve walking the barren hallways.

he didn't notice me since i was walking far behind him.

LovesDubs

Allowing him to have an arm around your shoulders and him squeezing your breast are NOT THE SAME THING and just because you allowed one doesnt mean that the other should be expected to happen and ALLOWED to go unsanctioned! People who over step their authority, teachers in particular, should be STOPPED. You arent the first victim. And who wants to be the one who narks on this asshole? Nobody does and how will you MISS someone like this who doesnt know his boundaries??

Perhaps he will only get a slap on the wrist but it will send a loud and clear message that his actions will NOT be tolerated and he WILL be turned in and then perhaps he will stop! If no one has the courage to stop him...someone WILL be raped because these types escalate and escalate to see how far they can push the envelope.

Tell us what you did ok??? My daughter will be attending college in one year. I would hate to think that just because someone is a teacher they have the right to abuse our kids. :(

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How Do YOU Help JWs Get Out Of The Religion?

by minimus in

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LovesDubs

Well the one thing I NEVER do is argue religious topics with them. Never use the Bible to have stupid debates. Never exchange literature with them tit for tat. Its not about that. Its about the way they TREAT people that I emphasize. The contradictions in behavior and what they preach. The total LACK of love in the organization. The depression, the meeting attendance falling off, the police state they force people to live under.

Usually people who are willing to engage in such a convo have doubts and you can plant seeds. But if a JW is not willing to look, God himself will not be able to make them leave.

I got on the internet immediately in 1996 and started my campaign to get people out. I know I succeeded in many cases. I would love to know how many left later after "getting" it. The internet is the BEST way to get them out IMHO. It gives them access and anonymity.

LD

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Craziest thing you've ever been "counseled" for????

by superman in

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i know that this has been a popular post in the past.

but after my last post, it got me thinking.

i used to always use those stupid field service report slips as scratch paper.

LovesDubs

Well, I wasnt even baptized and they had to counsel me for sexual activities that were occurring with a life long baptized brother I had narked on. The elder said "Well...I have to say SOMETHING to you about this!" I laughed...he was powerless and knew it.

I was told that skorts were manly and inappropriate for giving talks in from the podium.

I was in front of a judicial committee of elders having to explain in detail my having oral sex with someone (different from point one...hey...I have needs LOL!) Holy shit. I was more enraged than embarrassed by that scene. One elder afterwards (the one who was in point one of this post) said "LD do you even BELIEVE in God??" "I said of course I do. Whether or not He thinks I need to tell my personal business to a bunch of self important MEN is what I have issue with."

I was told I couldnt be in the same service car with the brother I was dating.

I was told I couldnt stand outside the Kingdom Hall and converse with this same brother alone. (An elder did in fact stand at a distance and watch us until we were through. I was 31 he was 35 for Gods sake!)

I was told that I was seen dancing with someone else's husband at a wedding and that that was improper. (he was 75!)

I was told I could not go on dates with my current husband unescorted. Again...I was over THIRTY! We had to bring his sister, who has Downs, on all our dates.

I was told that I needed to go read articles about forgiveness and repentence in the Bound Volumes by the elder father of the idiot in point one, who did NOT believe his son had done anything wrong...like...at all...even though the witnesses against him lined up around the hall.

I questioned if JWs were the only ones who would survive armgaedden and was told my comments were bordering on apostacy and to keep them to myself.

It is a frickin POLICE STATE

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Most Haunting Voices in Music

by stillajwexelder in

ok - so after a few threads in the last few days i started listening to some of my old music.

some artists just have voices that are hauntingly beautiful and stick with you forever.

for me - the top three are.

LovesDubs

Oh Enya....all day. First time I heard her was on the radio when Only Time came out. The world stopped at that moment. I love love love Celtic music. I listen to the theme from Lord of the Rings and her voice touches my soul.

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Jealousy and paranoia

by LovesDubs in

my kids are all up north visiting family and are staying with jws there who are closer to my kids than some of their own relatives.

my kids are in fact named after them.

so i get a text yesterday from my daughter that says "guess who is here!

LovesDubs

My kids are all up north visiting family and are staying with JWs there who are closer to my kids than some of their own relatives. My kids are in fact named after them. So I get a text yesterday from my daughter that says "guess who is here!" and Im like ok...who? "A.D!!" I hesitated for a second...my heart beating faster.... "My KONA???" I wrote. She was like your what?? "I said thats her nick name." "Yes she's here! its her! We havent seen her in over 9 years!" Kona and her husband and my husband and I were inseparable and got married close together, had our kids at the same time, took vacations together, saw each other like 6 times a week..you know how is it. Or....was.

And I was soooooo sad at that moment, like couldnt even breathe sad. And there was this jealousy that they all still get to see each other and talk and laugh...and Im on the outside now, the villain. And I wonder what is said about me, and to my kids about me and Im paranoid about that. And I miss some of those people who used to be my friends, and Im sure they miss me too. What a waste. What a travesty done in Gods name. :*(

I wrote back to her..."This damn religion. :*("

She says..."I know momma...but you still have me and I love you and I wont EVER leave you!"

I replied..."And that, my love, is ALL that I need."

She wrote back...."scoooooooooore!" :)

Bless her heart...she snapped me back out of the depths I fell into there and back into reality and to the things that really matter. But it made me realize that I have been gone 11 years now and time doesnt heal anything and you dont ever really forget or stop loving them.

LD

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An attempt at reconciliation.

by AK - Jeff in

my cousin - who was also my best friend for 35 years have been involved in an email exchange in recent weeks.

previous to that he was mostly shunning me.

without getting into details, he had given me room to explain things, especially as to how i have 'changed' as a result of leaving.

LovesDubs

If all your blogging and logging over time is as poignant at that letter Jeff you should see about getting it published. You are an excellent writer and we were all moved by this letter. I think it depicts where many of us are at with our JW friends and relatives. If only we could just get through to them.

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Great news!!!!!!!

by superman in

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im so happy ive got to tell someone!

at the beginning of the year i made the final mental decision to leave the truth and fade.

i havent been out in service or to a meeting in a long time.

LovesDubs

Wow... this is GREAT! I sure hope you both can trust that the other is out for good when all is said and done. Family shunning you can be a big push towards staying in you know?

Now you can talk about ANYTHING because the hard stuff is behind you!