Posts by lurk

38

Baptismal Pool

by Sunspot in

the other day i received an email from a man in croatia, who sent me and someone else a copy of a picture from a wts magazine.

i wasn't quite sure about the contents, but it looked to be legitimate----but being in croatian i was not sure of what it actually said and i ended up putting it aside intending to check it out (if possible) and then forgetting all about it.

he had also sent this to another person, who went to the trouble of verifying the facts and getting an understanding of what was being said in the picture.

lurk

brenda

i think most people would see a UN logo as unimportant in their lives ,this as a tiny unimporant issue which iswhy some people here can can say thinsg such as "what does it matter"

however i would like to see you attempt this sort of reasoning within your local congragation perhaps a little issue such as a ring with a star on or a henna tatoo not even permenant or wearing trousers to meetings etc see how far your rational gets you then.

i can well remember article that pointed out that how things look is important ,think this was the beard issue.even if your not a student activist you might look like one and thats what counts. the WTs have gone on about this yet on such an important issue as the beast it suddenly doesnt count.!!!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/77253/1.ashx

scroll down to post that shows a complete page of "from our readers" notice the tatoo letter .

the reason people are pointing fingers is because it is the WTS that has made such tiny issues like this so big in peopels lives ..its totaly natural that people will judge them by the standards that they dicatate .

cyber sista nice example

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Baptismal Pool

by Sunspot in

the other day i received an email from a man in croatia, who sent me and someone else a copy of a picture from a wts magazine.

i wasn't quite sure about the contents, but it looked to be legitimate----but being in croatian i was not sure of what it actually said and i ended up putting it aside intending to check it out (if possible) and then forgetting all about it.

he had also sent this to another person, who went to the trouble of verifying the facts and getting an understanding of what was being said in the picture.

lurk

thats halarious

a new believer being baptised in a pool advertising "the Beast"

of course they should have said no if only so new belivers didnt have to thank "the beast" for allowing them to be baptised..its hypocrasy ot then expect them ot go on to see the Un as evil when it has allowed them to be baptised...i mean satan is really letting himself down if the UN really was satan.

has satan joined the WTS or somthing that hes providing baptisum pools.

.for years we've been fed stories of how brothers and sisters have gone with out and suffered so as to keep their principles.you cant even give money to a good cause if its not JW cause.

As far as I remember, to the WT the UN is "bad" as part of Satan's political empire, but no more so than any national government. Would they refuse to hold an assembly in a public building displaying the national flag? I guess not. So what's the difference?

very good point

lurk

18

Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-29-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the august 29, 2004 wt study (july 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated

review comments

will be in black and parentheses ().

lurk

this is quite weird study is the WTs going for world domination?

The rulers of the earth?should have acknowledged the King immediately and rendered him full obedience.
There is still time for individuals to find safety?true even of individual rulers

the WTS is the only way so they are saying all world leaders should become JW's they would of course answer to thier local congragations!!!

or they would stand down from power and the next ruler becomes a JW untill eventually no rulers left excpet the governing body .

so the world would be run by the WTS either way according to what the WTS think should be happening

heaven help us........ my blood just went cold

after breaking promises for so long political leaders get dumped by thier party and country

i wonder how many false end of world start dates the world could put up with

lurk

18

WTBTS Website Now Features Entire NWT

by Corvin in

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http://www.watchtower.org/library/rbi8/

this is interesting.. corvin

lurk

Those plain statements (because they did not conform to the organizational "pattern" of interpretation) were/are depicted as distorted teachings giving evidence of "apostasy." How effed up are they to tell you, me or anyone that such basic and clear statements that contradict their teaching signify apostasy? But they do and they suck because of it.
Corvin

where have they ever said that those scriptures were a sign of appostasy?

lurk

29

I knew it! Star Trek is real!

by drwtsn32 in

jw
friends

transparent aluminum

lurk

a few startrek parables

a few captian picard talks

a few startrek video nights " how to apply volcan logic in your ministry"

would make meetings more interesting

ill rejoin for a uniform

lurk

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Gadgets Elder Visit - The transcript

by Gadget in

a few might remember that i arranged to meet with the elders for a chat, and i hoped it might let me get off a bit steam.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/76574/1.ashx.

it went great!

lurk

Elsewhere

all i found so far was this

BBC report 2003.

Among many programmes reviewed, CRAC recorded particular praise
for Panorama ? Suffer the Little Children.Although not a religious
programme, it was felt that this had been brave, if frightening,
and in the best tradition ofinvestigative journalism.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cache:7nFsTQCm8dMJ:www.bbc.co.uk/info/report2003/pdf/audiences.pdf+Broadcasting+Standards+Commission++Panorama++Suffer+the+LIttle+Children%22%3F&hl=en

hello gadget

i enjoyed reading your interview

it was so wrong that you were kicked out .especially as you and the woman you were engaged to went to the elders about your relationship.what a lesson in how honesty is not always a good thing.

i think its a shame that in the end all they could do was use emotional tatics such as :are you saying my father would cover things up, do you think brothers would deliberatly lie an cover up ( or stuff to that effect.and accusing you of nit picking !! well .that said it all....

one minute they the WTS society is jehovahs only true organization spreading religious truth ,well organized world wide ,fighting battles in courts for the good of mankind like some religious amnesty international then ......

the next minute they are just a bunch of simple lil christians making mistakes but trying there best

they have got all angles covered here .

the word passive aggressive comes to mind

lurk

8

Catholic girl denied communion

by TallTexan in

don't know if y'all have seen this, but it strikes me as very 'watchtower-ish".

basically, regardless of your desire to 'do what is right', if you can't do it how they say it's 'right', then you're screwed.

i don't agree w/ catholicism, but this little girl probably has nightmares of going to hell b/c the "holy" church won't let her take communion.. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5762478/?gt1=4529

lurk

Last month, the diocese told the priest that the church would not validate Haley?s sacrament because of the substitute wafer.

very WTS thinking they are the ones that validate someones faith not god

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WTS Tells a Whopper!

by Farkel in

among dubs who are true believers(tm) they will readily admit that their religious leaders have "made mistakes.

" few of them however, will admit that their leaders are intentional and calculating liars, dirty rotten lying liars who lie in order to blind their flock and to conceal their own dirty laundary and miserable failures in both doctrine and policy.

i'll give but one example.

lurk

the procalimer book is a night mare to find info in..the info is spread all over the place 1914 details are from the begining to a chapter right at the end .

i can understand why JW's dont spot the ticky bits

they spread it all out so much amoung the boring stuff like pcitures of printers and how many runs a printer made*yawn*

took me a while to spot the plan of the ages diagram used to support teachings was from the same teaching about pyramids mentioned briefly in another chapter as being a traching they dropped.

honestly who reads that boring stuff anyway when theres interesting magazines articles that you simply should be reading about flies and ants and birds ...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

lurk

28

gods name

by lurk in

been thinking about what blondie said about the use of jehovah in 1 thessalonians:4 and how they try to pass the word lord of as both jesus and jehovah ........so i looked some stuff up.... i cant think why i was so convinced that the disciples used gods name.

im willing to be convinced though.

example of jehovah being added and lord meaning both jesus and jehovah

lurk

i wrote a a flaming long reply and the flipping thing just got trashed by the server GRRRRRR

i cant be botherd to write it again.

What is particularly obvious to me is that on NO occasion would it ever be okay to address the Supreme Being and creator of the universe by his own personal name! Incredible rudeness and hubris would be demonstrated. Would you walk up to A judge in a courtroom and say, "Billy, I need an ajournment"?

i dont get that...YHWH/jehovah leaves his name but no where does he say dont use my name

the first and last name business only counts if you have got a last name .reminds me very much of the

my parents attitude to name use .where it used to be rude to call anyone even someone your own age by there first name.its still considered rude if your not invited to use a first name

dont you think all this last name first name buisness is more a result of modern attitudes as in victorian

attitudes..i mean people didnt even have last names at one time.

jesus did not get cross with people for calling him jesus and he's a bit higher up then my dad or the queen of england.

as for court judges ..i mean come on this is thousands of years later ...you cant compare modern manors to ancient isreal

Well there you have it. It is Jesus H. Christ after all.

lol confused , i never knew what the H stood for

lurk

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 8-15-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

by blondie in

"go therefore and make disciples?teaching them to observe all the things i have commanded you.

http://www.geocities.com/cfpchurch/evangelismlessons.html.

http://www.drbchurch.contactbox.co.uk/main/otheract.html.

lurk

oh no !!!!

after articles like this i get at least one very uncomfortable visit or a letter with deep christian love ( that saying makes me cringe).

now im dreading sunday afternoon (the new turn up time)

hopefully this dear fussy couple will have writen me off by now the rest of the cong did while i was still publishing .

blondie ta loads

hope the jobs going good and your blokes doing well.

lurk