I sure have noticed that she has not been around lately, but then again I am in and out so much thought I just missed her. And you too ,usually ya'll are on around the same time, and we always have alot of laughs. Tell her to hurry up and get back online to her family... send her my love and hugs, JWD withdrawals can be hard I hear. LOL
LyinEyes
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Scootergirl says hi
by eyegirl inas scootergirl's sister, i feel it's my duty to inform everyone as to why she's been mia.
her computer pooped out on wednesday last week.
needless, she's been lost without it.
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We Disassociated Ourselves Tonite!!!
by LyinEyes inlocal elder called tonite, with a witness on the phone to ask if it is true we were smoking ?
we said yes, and we know who told on us.
it was a ms who was at the club just last week with another woman, not his wife of course, while she was at the meeting.
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LyinEyes
Thanks for all the replys, and thanks to you all we don't feel alone. When we first came to this site, we felt we finally found a place that we belonged. That was made even more clear to us tonight. I am overwhelmed by the love and support shown by all of you .... I honestly can't express how wonderful I feel. I am so looking forward to meeting some of you in Dallas, and we hope to make more Apostofest in the fall, even if we have to travel . You are our real brothers and sisters, and we will always be here to support you all, and any new ones that need a helping hand as we did.
For all of you who are concerned about the smoking issue and our health , thank you. I made another post about that , it explains it a little more.
Hugs, Dede and Denny
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The Little Girl Is Safe
by TMS inmissing philadelphia girl escapes to safety tue jul 23,10:56 pm et .
by david morgan
philadelphia (reuters) - a 7-year-old philadelphia girl, abducted as she played outside the home of her grandmother on monday night, was able to free herself and flee to safety after about nearly 24 hours of captivity, police said late on tuesday.
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LyinEyes
Thank God, this is a wonderful outcome.
The spirit of a child..... such a wonderful thing, how dare someone try and take that away from them. If there is a hell, these people who hurt the little children should burn forever.
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A little more info on the d/a and smoking.....
by LyinEyes inyeah, we know smoking is not good.
beleive it or not, i smoke about a 3 cig a week, if that, only when i go to the bar or out drinking.
i am about to even stop that , because my kids hate it so much.
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LyinEyes
Yeah, we know smoking is not good. Beleive it or not, I smoke about a 3 cig a week, if that, only when I go to the bar or out drinking. I am about to even stop that , because my kids hate it so much. Wild Turkey only smokes a cigar on occasion like I do, when he has a beer while out . I think I did it out of rebellion and I don't like the way it sticks to my hair. LOL . So I plan on giving even the 3 cigs the boot too.
We made it plain to the elder who called us, that smoking was just something we did and that was not the issue of why we wanted to disassociate ourselves. We told them we do not support the WTBS anymore. They have known all along that we were involved in some kind of apostasy but couldnt prove it. We decided awhile back that if we went out it would be with a blaze of glory, go ahead and tell the truth of why we don't even want a Judicial meeting. We decided we don't owe them any explanations and plain and simple just couldnt support the organziation anymore.
I know all the JW's who hear this, may hear the gossip that we got it for smoking, but really the apostasy was way before the smoking . It is the real reason we choose to disassociate ourselves.
And we plan on letting everyone we know , know the truth about the WTBS and how we choose to leave such a cult.
Thanks so much for all of your kind words and support .. Love Dede and Denny
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My mommy doesn't want me. . I need a hug
by StinkyPantz ini sent my mom a letter not too long ago telling her that i wanted my family back.
well, i got a very unexpected response.
she basically said "no".
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LyinEyes
Dearest Sweetie,, here is your hug,, hope I am not hugging too tightly.
I lost my mom yrs ago and miss her very much. My dad is still a jw and since my mom died and he remarried he has had little to do with me. I have wrote letters, called, begged, everything for him to love me. This wonderful Minsterial Servant who used to be an elder for many years couldnt even love his very active JW daughter. He could do everything for everyone eles, but he never would give me what I needed. I called him one nite, crying saying I needed his help with some things that happend to me as a child . He said he would always be there,,, It was maybe 7 months before he called again. So much for the loving jw father. Tonite I disassociated myself , I doubt he will find out for awhile , until the gossip spreads, he will call, and I plan on telling him it is too late. I guess there is hope he will someday see the light, but as long as he is a JW he will be the same. I have accepted that.
I don't want to blab on about my family crap, but I thought it might help you to know that alot of us here are going thru the same thing. It is not your fault, you are a good daughter I am sure. It is there warped way of thinking, it is their problem. Sad, but there is not alot you can do to change their view they have to do that. I hope one day my dad and I can make peace. But I will not live my life to please him anymore. I have to move on. I hope you know you have family here, that is how i feel , and it hurts like hell. Here is another hug.............(((((((( StinkyPants))))))))))))) Dede
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We Disassociated Ourselves Tonite!!!
by LyinEyes inlocal elder called tonite, with a witness on the phone to ask if it is true we were smoking ?
we said yes, and we know who told on us.
it was a ms who was at the club just last week with another woman, not his wife of course, while she was at the meeting.
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LyinEyes
Local elder called tonite, with a witness on the phone to ask if it is true we were smoking ? We said yes, and we know who told on us. It was a MS who was at the club just last week with another woman, not his wife of course, while she was at the meeting. He even toasted us and said he would be out in service the next day with a hangover. He must have confessed to his own sins and felt the need to tell on us. He was smoking too, one of my cigs, figured he would tell sooner or later.
Wild Turkey told them that he disassociates himself from the WTBS and not Jehovah and not the friends and even told them how he wanted it to be said. I got on the phone and said I want to be disassociated too. I just put my hands on my face and waited to fall apart............... I didnt.
I feel like I have been d/a for awhile now. I will not miss anyone not speaking to me and I dont care what they think anymore. I expected to be sad, angry or something, I don't feel anything but relief. I knew this was coming, I mean we have been smoking and drinking , and of course doubting to the elders a year ago about the org. I wanted them to find out, I was tired of hiding a cig , if I was in my own yard, tired of them showing up. So now we are free, and it is ok. This just happened maybe 15 mins ago. I called my sister and she was supportive since she has been d/a for 2 yrs.
My mother in law called and I told her since she was a JW , she couldnt talk to me anymore I am d/a ,, she laughed and it wont be long before she follows suit. We are actually joking about it.
Oh my youngest son, just came up to me and asked if we can celebrate Xmas this year,,,,,,,,,,,,I told him we are gonna have the biggest damn tree you ever have seen, presents, and lights outside. He kissed me and put his arms around me and just smiled and said he is so happy , cant wait until xmas. He just said ,he wanted this day to happen, and he is just 7 yrs old. I think we will go out and celebrate tomorrow.
We are free , free at last. Thanks for all of your support, I dont know if it would be this easy for me to walk away with out your friendship.
With hugs and love , from fellow disassociated apostates, LyinEyes (Dede) and Wild Turkey(Denny)
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A loss of Life, A tribute to my nieces....
by Cassiline inthirteen years ago my nieces were murdered.
today is a hard day for me, remembering the phone call the shock and pain.
lives stolen in a moment.
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LyinEyes
Dear Cassi , I hate to hear you have had such a tragedy like that happen in your family. Time does help, it is said to heal all wounds, but I always say it still leaves an ugly scar. You never fully get over something so sudden , shocking and especially when the young die . There is no revenge for the murder of someone you love, how can you get justice, you can't get them back. You just get mad , and wonder why? I am curious Cass, do you beleive they are in heaven , and does it give you any comfort? I dont know what I beleive about my mom, I would like to think she was in heaven having a good time, being happy and free, but just can't seem to really grasp the concept of that.
I know how it feels to have an anniversary of the deaths hit you hard all over again. I wish I could give you a hug..... I just can't stand to see a friend feeling sad . If you want to call me tonite , I would love to talk to you, you can give me your number and I can call you back, wont cost me a thing on my cell. We don't even have to talk about this if you don't want to , we can just talk , just wanted to let you know I am just a phone call away. Again it was sad to hear about your precious nieces, I will be thinking of you and your family today. Give me a call. Love ya , Dede
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On the subject of Dreaming.
by refiners fire ini have the impulse to start a thread on dreams.
bad dreams, my dreams, your dreams and "wet" dreams.
first of all, my dreams.
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LyinEyes
I love my dreams, which are very detailed,well I love the pleasant ones. The armeggedon ones are over with, but were quiet disturbing and very realistic. I have dreamed also of jumping in the air and going very high,but not flying,just floating back down. I have dreamed of my mother often, and would dream of her when I was going thru a bad spell of missing her. Funny I dont dream of my dad, which is a good thing. I used to dream alot about being persecuted , in some way or another, being humiliated, and trying to hit someone and it not even touching them . A therepist once told me this is classic symptons of PTSD, and could even be things in my deep subconscience from my childhood.But in this last year my dreams like that are few and far between, since I left the borg, go figure!!!!! Many of my dreams are like little mini series, they start off with a point , and then towards then end , changes into something eles. Most of the time, they are not that far fetched from things that have really happened to me. I dream everynite and I almost always remember what i have dreamed about . I dream alot that I am still stuck living at home with my parents and I am 35 years old and married to Denny. Then i get a miserable feeling and realize that I dont have to stay with them and I leave to meet Denny somewhere, but I have to sneak away .Sometimes I dream I have cleaned the house or done something that needed to be done, and it would be so real, only to wake up to find I didnt do it . I woke up the other morning, singing, I heard myself out loud, and so did Denny who was standing at the foot of the bed laughing . I remember I was trying to sing a Xmas carol but didnt know the words.... it went like this,,,,frosty the snowman was a jolly green giant. I was a little embarrassed . I also walk , talk, and have talked on the phone while completely asleep. My mother said I did this since I was a baby ,and Denny says I still do it, but the sleepwalking is not often.
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Worst watchtower you tryed to place!!
by haujobbz in.
the worst magazines i tryed to place was about 13 months ago i think 1 was the watchower on witchcraft and the other was the elderly commiting suicide.i thought how the hell am i going to offer this mag on witchcraft, i think i ended giving them to the pioneers,i mean what sort of presentation could i use with this witchcraft article i suppose i could of spoke about the blair witch project and tell them how c:@p it was,i mean i loved horror films.and to make things worse the magazine about the elderly commiting suicide "oh god" that was a bad one especially when i had to offer it at an old peoples home.
so anyone on here what mags did you find terrible to place.
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LyinEyes
My worst one was on Family Planning, talking about birth control , spacing children etc.
I was standing there at the door with one kid in my hand picking on the householders cat, one in the car, and a belly sticking way out. I was 8 months pregnant. I felt like a hypocrite and I should practice what I preached.
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How about some embarrassing 80's pics?
by LyinEyes inlet's post some of our 80's pic, or even further back if you want to.
it would really be fun to see some of you in your finest witness attire, bookbag and all.
baptism pics would be a blast to see.. wild turkey had this idea ,but he already started two threads.
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LyinEyes
The guy sitting with the long hair, you look like the dude of that 70's show. My son had to point out to me what ya'll where doing and what a certain object was, I didnt even notice!!!
Ok , Valis wins hands down on the "Most Changed Apostate", you look like such a good boy in those pictures, so innocent .
I wanted to put one of my Wild Turkey with his very full head of hair, ok it was an afro, but he won't let me. It was even better than Lenny Kravitz' !!!!!!