I am very sorry to hear about your uncles passing. It will be hard for you , not knowing how the family will treat you. But at least you were called and have a chance to say goodbye to your favorite uncle now, I know not the same, but you deserve the right to mourn him. Many hugs are sent your way Fire, we will be with you in spirit and thought durning this hard time for you.
LyinEyes
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My uncle was found DEAD this morning
by Fire Dragon inmy jw dad called me this morning and told me that he found my jw uncle dead, face-down on the floor in his home.
he's taking it hard.
i was shocked to hear him say that he wanted me to be with the family.
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Judicial Hearing-Elders Afraid
by silentlambs inhttp://community.webshots.com/photo/44722558/44722772xoorvs
http://community.webshots.com/photo/44722558/44722843mbprwy
http://community.webshots.com/photo/44722558/44723017nebyfw
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LyinEyes
Bill, this is the 5th time I have tried to post on what you are going thru, I just keep erasing it.
So for now, all I can say is that Denny and I are thinking of you , and wishing there would be a better outcome for you. Feeling a little lost tonite, we will be d/a tomorrow nite. I always thought this would be worse than death, when I was a JW. But really it is not even close to that, just hate the feeling of being misunderstood. I am sure you know more than we do about that. This is so unjust.
Whatever happens you know you have alot of support and many people who are grateful for your encouragment , your friendship and your loyalty. Even if the WT doesnt see it, we do.
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Hello I'm new here...
by Lapuce ini really love this web site and yes i'm a jw still, have been for 8 years now, i'm 35 and am married to a jw and have two boys one is 1-1/2 and the other 5. for about 2 to 3 years now i'm starting to see that its not really the truth.
the brothers, sisters and elders dont really care about anyone, the watchtower is ruining my life, i have been depressed for awhile now and i'm on anti depressants as i started feeling suicidal as i'll never be good enough as i hate meetings, i hate going door to door, and it doesn't make any sense that jehovah will destroy good people just because they don't follow its doctrins.
its like saving to your son if you don't do what i tell you i will kill you.
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LyinEyes
Welcome to the board,, yeah you will find people who feel just like you do. When I read what you wrote it sounded just like me a year ago, depressed lonely, miserable. This site has helped me to express myself, to heal, to find new friends, and to learn .
Someone very wise told me that I needed to give myself time to let it all sink in. Don't worry about making big life changes or decisions right now. Give yourself some time to think and get to know who you really are. I know on my path of leaving the org. it has had many ups and downs, times I didnt know where I belonged. But so far, this is the best place for me, I feel like I belong here. I hope you continue to be a part of this, but I will warn ya,, it is addictive!!!!!
Again welcome and look forward to hearing more of your story.
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RIP Tequila :(
by SpiderMonkey in.
i don't why i'm making a post of this, just because i guess... my dog died this morning, run over by a car... she saw a bunch of kids on the other side of a busy street, slipped out of the collar and ran for it... she didn't listen to me & she was dead before i even got to her :(.
in loving memory of tequila "mockingbird" casey, c. 1994-2002, the most beautiful, loving dog ever...
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LyinEyes
Oh man, that is so sad. So sorry you had to see it . My pug got ran over by my sister in law , but i didnt see it happen thank goodness. She was my baby. I got another pug, but a boy this time and he is starting to reach a place in my heart ,but she will never be replaced.
There is a guy that come in here, I think his name is LB if I am not mistaken , and his dog died a couple of weeks ago. It was hard for him too, we all feel for others when their companions die.
Sorry about your dog, spider, .... LyinEyes(Dede)
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3 minutes and it was over....
by LyinEyes inthis is just a side thought about us disassociating ourselves last nite, it took all of three minutes.. 35 years of my life being a jw, same for wild, 11 yrs of him being an elder and it all came down to two men of the phone to finalize our departure.. what i find strange about this, is that not once did they ask us to reconsider, or if we would think about it for a couple of days and then we could get back with them.
they didnt ask for one more shepherding call, they didnt say goodbye, they didnt say we would be missed.
they were so formal almost like robots with no feeling.
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LyinEyes
This is just a side thought about us disassociating ourselves last nite, it took all of three minutes.
35 years of my life being a JW, same for Wild, 11 yrs of him being an elder and it all came down to two men of the phone to finalize our departure.
What I find strange about this, is that not once did they ask us to reconsider, or if we would think about it for a couple of days and then we could get back with them. They didnt ask for one more shepherding call, they didnt say goodbye, they didnt say we would be missed. They were so formal almost like robots with no feeling. Dont get me wrong I am glad it happened quickly and there were no emotions involved, but it is just sad that , they are so cold. If they truly wanted us to be saved from our sinful ways, wouldnt they want to try to reach our hearts? There was nothing of the kind in that short telephone call. I really thought it would have been different. I know others who got in trouble and they kept trying to help them, giving them weeks, to decide if they could give up what they were doing, etc. When my sister d/a herself , they went to her job, to her house, to try and talk her out of it. She was only a baptized JW for a year , and barely active at her best. But Denny did so much for that congregation and they so easily threw him away. I am more hurt at how they did him, Denny served shoulder to shoulder with these brothers, and where did that love go? It just blows my mind how they wanted us to just say the words , so they could be done with it. They didnt even want us to have second thoughts.
For any of you who were d/f or d/a did the elders plead with you to try and stay in , or where they like the ones who delt with us?
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Englishman's BBQ Pics
by Simon inok, until i check with everyone who is in them whether they are ok for their picture to be posted i will stick to 'safe' ones (ie.
people who have already posted their pics or said it was ok):.
mark aka celtic / invisible and englishman.. .
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LyinEyes
One of the things that warmed my heart as a JW was the international brotherhood.
Well , guess what, I can see from these pics and pics from other Apostofest, that the "real" brotherhood is alive , kicking and growing!!!!
It is a comfort to know that I really didnt lose that at all, instead I have seen what true love and understanding is all about. I love to see your smiling faces and your happiness.
Funny, being apostates, or whatever we want to call ourselves, we truly never really meet a stranger,and we have a common bond that is very strong.
Thanks for the pics, what a lovely bunch of people you guys are.
Love ya all, Dede
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Out Of The Dark?
by WildTurkey inmost of you know by now my wife and i are disassociated.
a brother turned us in for smoking.
anyway, one of the elders in my cong will say: jehovah uncovered this he brought it out of the dark you cant practice sin in the dark jehovah will not allow it he is not the only elder ive heard that from.
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LyinEyes
Very good observations Denny. They are fools, plain and simple. I say let them beleive their own lies, but God , what can we do to help the innocent? For so long you stayed in , trying to be one of those elders that tried to be fair , but knew things were not right in the way they handled things. But your love for Jehovah made you stay. And your love of the mistreated friends made you want to stay just to look out for their best interest. I guess that is what breaks my heart about this, you were the only the elder that acted like a shepherd, a shelter against the wind. I am sure they are missing you for that , missing your teaching skills and your love for them. Of course they will hear the wrong story, they will be told how we hate them, how we hate God, etc. etc. That is really sad, if they only knew the times you fought with the other elders on their behalf, I know you kept alot from getting d/f , and they will never know it. It hurts me that it hurts you because you will be labled as something you are not. They will forget all of your good works, they will go on being led by elders who do not care the way that you did. I think that is the only thing I am sad about being d/a , is that all the time you really cared , you gave and gave of yourself and your time.
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Understanding the Lord's Prayer.
by Bleep infrom the april 1,2002 watchtower.
page 5 and 6.. to see the difference between having an accurate knowledge of the bible and having a passing acquaintance with what it says, let us consider what is commonly called the our father, or the lord's prayer, recorded at mathew 6:9-13.. millions regularly recite jesus' model prayer in church.
but how many have been taught its meaning, especially the first part of the prayer dealing with god's name and kingdom?
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LyinEyes
L.A. Big Dawg that made me laugh... I needed a good laugh . Blah , blah , blah blah.
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WHAT'S THE WORSE THING YOU DID AT THE MEETING?
by Mary ini would have to say the worst (aka: funniest) thing i ever did at a meeting was when i sat with the circuit overseer and his wife (many moons ago......) .
anyway, he was really prim and proper and she was of course, a very submissive wife who barely spoke without her husbands permission.
anyway, he goes to the platform and starts off by asking th audience: who was ahab?
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LyinEyes
Too many to put in order....
Laughing all the time at anything.
Playing in the bathroom with my best friend , trying to rip each others pantyhose to shreads. Our mothers wondered why we didnt have on our hose.
Making faces at my husband while he was giving a talk on "A Godly view of Marriage... especially the sex parts.
Making faces at with my mother in law about being a submissive wife.. ( my ass submissive!!!crap)
Laughing at my kids, laughing with my kids, when they farted, farted on purpose, made farting noises .
Laughing at my son when he would purposely say Amen very loudly 15 seconds before the brother could.
Having gossip fest in the bathroom with the other gossips in the ladies room.
Sleeping on the couch in the ladies rooms on Sunday mornings.
Eating candy all during the meeting and drinking a coke... I had a scratchy throat..ok!
Writing in my journal instead of taking notes.
Sleeping in the library because I had a headache.. i really did alot of times.
Laughing about Abraham getting off his ass...... trying to hold the giggle in, but came out my nose.
Walking around outside with one of the unruly kids, and throwing pine cones and rocks, or looking for bugs.
Almost was tempted to drink a beer durning the half way song, it was in the cooler in the back of the truck.... wish I would have now.
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N'AWLINS! Bigboi please respond
by SpiderMonkey inok i just got through some problems that my computer had with its human & i'm back .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=18860&site=3.
i sure do wish i'd been on this site around january!!!
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LyinEyes
Spider Monkey you need to get your monkey butt over to Dallas, WT and I are hoping to stay for the weekend , we will see.
I live very close to Shreveport, Louisiana , in little hick town about a40 miles away. We would love to hook up sometime work permitting. Hey , the Louisiana apostates are growing in leaps and bounds, and now that we are d/a , we plan on recruiting more.... heheheheh!