Fear of "worldly" people
Overcoming that fear was my first step to freedom. Great post!!!
early in the exit process, it's very important to begin overcoming irrational fears.
fear of the devil.
fear of god.
Fear of "worldly" people
Overcoming that fear was my first step to freedom. Great post!!!
had lunch with an old friend, still a jw.
regarding her son's education, she told me he does very well in all of his subjects, but she doesn't push him.
she tells him to just pass his classes, get out, graduate, get a part time job and........... wait for it............pioneer.
Wimped out wobble. She and I were best friends when we were teenagers. She got married to an a**hole JW, I started fading. Guess I didn't want to upset the apple cart. I hadn't see her in years up until recently. That being said, I should have spoken up. Her poor son.
i don't even know where to start.
every jw i still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people.
they put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone).
Entirely Possible...You hit the nail on the head!!! It's just a little sad when you see a glimpse of the personality and then WOOPS!!! back to boring (I mean borg)
i don't even know where to start.
every jw i still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people.
they put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone).
I don't even know where to start. Every JW I still have contact with is poor, their health is bad, they're stressed out, they're unhappy people. They put on a good front but you can see the strained smiles, those distant looks into nowhere (or where their life could have gone). I see facebook posts from them griping about having to get up so early to go to the meeting, complaining about the conventions, etc. etc. etc. I want to tell them. Just stay home. What would happen? NOTHING!
it seems unfair and a bit hypocritical that they would shun those that are disfellowshipped or disassociated, but i faded so no problem (though over the course of the past couple of decades i have committed a few disfellowshipable (is that a word?
) offenses.
anyway, just seems odd.
It seems unfair and a bit hypocritical that they would shun those that are disfellowshipped or disassociated, but I faded so no problem (though over the course of the past couple of decades I have committed a few disfellowshipable (is that a word?) offenses. Anyway, just seems odd.
had lunch with an old friend, still a jw.
regarding her son's education, she told me he does very well in all of his subjects, but she doesn't push him.
she tells him to just pass his classes, get out, graduate, get a part time job and........... wait for it............pioneer.
Had lunch with an old friend, still a JW. Regarding her son's education, she told me he does very well in all of his subjects, but she doesn't push him. She tells him to just pass his classes, get out, graduate, get a part time job and........... wait for it............pioneer. I am so glad my brother who is still a kinda sorta JW doesn't subscribe to this school of thought.
On a funny note, I push college every time I see my nephew (my brother's son), who is a junior in high school. He joked that he could be the millionaire CEO of a very successful company but if he didn't go to college first I would still beat his butt. He is correct. College isn't just about graduating and getting a good job. It's about learning to think critically, taking elective classes where you can learn about art, music, history, etc. I think college helps make you a more well rounded individual. Anyway, so sad to get a first hand account of a JW dumbing down her child and depriving him of a higher education and a decent life. Grrrrrr.....
Hi tracylee, I'm another Tracy........ Good for you!!! I can't believe the things they were saying about you (mentioned in another thread). I admire your courage!
That is a really tough question. I have managed a successful fade. Those alternatives will leave you in the position of being shunned. I guess it depends on what you have to lose or not lose. Given the choice, with no consequences, I would disassociate in a heartbeat. I would never give those ******** the satisfaction of giving me the boot. I actually have days, almost 20 years later, that I think about disassociating myself...oh the letter I would write. Anyway, tough choice, lots of good advice on this site.
so i havnt been to a meeting now for about a month or so!
today, i decided for a change that id just go!
it was so boring... one young sister gave a good talk however.
I'm so happy for you! Embrace your sexuality and your partner!!! Me thinks I should go embrace mine.
when i was growing up most of the jws around me were poor and lower middle class.
some were middle class, but very few were upper middle class.
only (maybe) about 1% were college educated.
Let me take my well educated financially stable husband to a meeting and I'll see what happens mmmmm... on the other hand, maybe not.