I just try to point out little things to my mom that don't mesh. This generation change was huge, but it seems it didn't effect the dubs the way it should have.
It's like someone told you that you were going to be selling your house and buying a new one on a certain date, but then, it doesn't happen. You don't visit the bank to get the loan, no one comes to appraise the house, the for sale sign never appears and you've only seen pictures of the new house...never visited. Nothing happens. Then, you're told, "Well you'll move someday, but I don't know when right now. I can't be sure of the date." It would be natural to be disappointed. The whole concept of no one seeming to care about the change doesn't make sense.
My mom has an incredible amount of faith in God (and the org). I used to think her faith was admirable...she can believe in things she can't see, and I am a doubter. But, blindly following someone/thing isn't really faith.
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A 1914 generation question
by Pwned ini was around in 1995, barely, but i dont remember any talks or articles where the new light about the generation of 1914. did they change w/o coming right out and saying so,or was there a talk.
especially in regards to the mission statement or whatever in the awake, did they make an announcement or did they just hope no one would notice?
i just cant believe that there wasnt a mass exodus after that, my family never mentioned the change to me, i didnt even know til years later on this site.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 3-20-05 WT Study (complete article)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 3-20-05 wt study
(february 1, 2005 issue date)
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Great comments Blondie!
Didn't Lot sleep with his daughters so they could have children and further his lineage because there were no other men (faithful men?) around? I don't see where he was such a good man... -
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Remembering growing up as a JDub hurts...
by misspeaches inyou know i've been fading for 18 months now.
i come from a smallish city of about half a dozen congregations so just about everyone knows everyone so its not such an easy thing to do.
growing up as a jdub was so hard and awful.
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(((Miss Peaches)))
I was in the same situation. My dad was not a witness, but my mom was/is. We weren't invited to anything. My babysitter was another JW, and she had a whole scrapbook of pictures from get-togethers where all the other kids from the KH were there. I felt so sad when I saw that.
I have a really hard time relating to people, and I never felt normal. I've been making friends lately, and it does get easier. Especially since I don't believe they are all going to die at A. No one should grow up thinking that about their peers!
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A 1914 generation question
by Pwned ini was around in 1995, barely, but i dont remember any talks or articles where the new light about the generation of 1914. did they change w/o coming right out and saying so,or was there a talk.
especially in regards to the mission statement or whatever in the awake, did they make an announcement or did they just hope no one would notice?
i just cant believe that there wasnt a mass exodus after that, my family never mentioned the change to me, i didnt even know til years later on this site.
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I stopped going in 93, and I didn't know about this until about 2001. I read it somewhere online, and I asked my mom about it. She told me about it and the "new light." She gave the line about Jesus stating no one knows the time or hour.
I reminded her that I was told repeatedly I would not graduate from high school, and I had in 94. She tried to say she had never said that! HA! I remember she did along with other family members and elders from the platform. If I had still been going when it was announced, I would have left! I have had to let go of a lot of anger over not being able to do things because no one thought this system would last much longer.
I asked her what if she gets old and it hasn't come.... She is in her early 50's now. She had tears running down her face and told me that she has faith in Jehovah, that we will stop all this suffering and death. I wish I could get through to her. -
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Could a sister have hair this long?
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men must have short hair in the org.. does this mean that sisters can have their hair as long as they want?.
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I had long hair until I was 11, and my mom finally relented and let me cut it. It does not feel good when you accidently sit on your hair, and it gives you whiplash!
Later, I had a short bob, just below my ears. I got talked to by an elder who told me that hair above the shoulders for women was a "worldy" sign of lesbianism. He may have read the scripture quoted above.
I asked him what it was he wanted me to do...as hair doesn't grow that quickly! He didn't have an answer.
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How many should partake this year at the memorial?
by M.J. inhow many should partake this year at the memorial?
how many of the original anointed, whose number was "sealed" in 1935 would likely be alive today?.
i've examined the general survival rate of people of this age group in the us.
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I remember the first thing I would look at when the new yearbook came out is how many partakers there were. I believed it would drop steadily until it became close to 0. I figured it was an advance warning system thing. Then, I could work on being a good girl when the time was near. lol It would drop like 200 in a year...I did the math and figured out how many years away it was once. My mom once told me that it didn't mean anything because Jehovah could kill them all off quickly when A came. What a scary thought!
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A Pivotal Date: March 20
by ezekiel3 ini am just giggling myself inside out with the stupid antics regarding the march 20 release of the new org book.. of course, in great irony, only the apostates seem to know what's going on.. meanwhile in the congregations, a excitment tinged with mystery and suspense is tweaking the r&f.
my entire book study was just about begging the conductor for any hint.. to emphasize the surprise, congregations that meet on saturday (march 19) are actually moving their public/wt meetings to sunday just for the event.
just imagine the drool letdown when they find out the truth, that old br.
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I almost laughed out loud when my mom mentioned there was a special talk this coming Sunday...because I already knew. Then, she said one of the elders had let it out there was going to be a new OM book. She seemed disappointed that she knew before the talk. She should be happy she knows she will need to give a donation ahead of time. At least since she mentioned it, I can ask her what it was all about on Monday. lol
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Were you invited to the Memorial?
by JH inhas anybody invited you to go to the memorial this year?
do you expect to be invited?.
usually elders come over a few days before to invite me, but they didn't come yet....
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My mom told me when it was and told me I should go. Then, she looked up the address to a KH in my city and emailed it to me. I told her I wasn't going to go, and she didn't say anymore.
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More conversations with my wife - birthdays this time
by ithinkisee ini was out to lunch with my wife today and she was telling me how our child did not want to go to school that day because they were doing a bunch of st patricks day stuff.
our child really can't stand being different and left out.
i feel so bad for my child.
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I'm not sure if early Jehovah's Witnesses celebrated birthdays, but I'd be inclined to say they did based on this. They celebrated Christmas! My grandma's KH has a huge library of old books, and there were Christmas songs in the first JW songbook! I couldn't believe it when I saw that!
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Anyone ever beat a speeding ticket (not that I would have one)
by zman inok this friend of mine (hahahah) got a ticket in san antonio.
he was guilty as sin, 79 in a 65 and passed a plain jane cop car, the three lane changes (no signal) did'nt help.
this 'guy' now has ten tickets in three states, he always says he will fight one.
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I've only had one speeding ticket. I've been driving over 10 years, and it was the only time I ever got pulled over for anything!
I was going 75 in a 55. The transportation cop was not having any sympathy on me...my son was crying in the backseat.."Is mommy going to jail?" :( I was trying to get them to school on time because I usually do not speed when they are in the car. The cop yelled at me for speeding with 3 kids in the car...and I felt bad enough about it already.
I was facing 2 points and $135 dollar fine. I went to court and pleaded guilty. Of course, the cop was there, and the whole docket of over 300 names were all his cases! The cop gave me PBJ (probation before judgement) and lowered the fine to $70 and no points. He said if I got another ticket within a year, then the full fine and points could be reinstated, but I didn't get another one. When he asked me if I wanted to say anything else, I said no. I talked as little as possible, so the cop didn't need to say anything. I didn't care about the fine, but I did not want those points!
I saw several people there who hired lawyers, were going the same speed as me, and they all got the same reduced fine that I did. But...someone lied about whether they had another ticket in the last three years. They said they didn't, but the judge could look up the driving record on his computer. He threw the book at her, and she had a huge fine and points assessed.