Metatron:
If Russell knew that this would be going on for a 100 years after his death it would have just been the Tract Society. A couple tracks and back to the Retail business.
the above title was the immediate response of a hyperloyal sister to the news that the mags were going to 16 pages.
i truly wonder if this move opens the door to the practical end of the "preaching work".
they could move everything to the internet, get rid of yearly statistics and pretend that things are growing.
Metatron:
If Russell knew that this would be going on for a 100 years after his death it would have just been the Tract Society. A couple tracks and back to the Retail business.
just wondering has there ever been a definitive article responding to this or a similar q ?.
This is the big problem for ALL religion.
the above title was the immediate response of a hyperloyal sister to the news that the mags were going to 16 pages.
i truly wonder if this move opens the door to the practical end of the "preaching work".
they could move everything to the internet, get rid of yearly statistics and pretend that things are growing.
Watchtower, Bible, & TRACT society.
Finally, living up to their name. Their REAL name.
one shift 4 men.
total personnel at brooklyn 31 men.
shift 5 men.
Ann:
Randy is now an old man (like Knorr) and he can't visualize the changes you suggest.
i have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.
in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.
even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.
Blondie:
You hit the nail on the head. As much as I appreciate SIAMS statement of the situation it is WAY too self-angrandizing and convoluted. Elders are just "busy". The women hold organizations together. Women are more social and all organizations give women a place to socialize. If you look around you will see more women than men at the hall.
Men are just noise in the machinery. You have to keep them busy and away from the women so that women are able to do the real work. The women in the oranization are the primary workers. They are the most effective at the door. They make the most intelligent comments at the meetings. And they probably put more hours into helping other members in a personal way than the elders. The women prepare their little parts on the meeting better than the men and make their parts more interesting. Women are capable of working for the intrinsic rewards. Men need the praise of others - mostly women.
The men that leave are usually the more creative capable ones who no longer feel like doing the SOS over and over. The dumb, conventional men stay in because their little positions are challenging to their limited abilities.
JW's are not too different from any male dominated organization. Angry men and the women who love them.
the announcement of the reduced number of pages in the watchtower & awake will be made after the watchtower study following the "special talk" on april 8.. theoretically, that's when there will be more visitors and "outsiders" than usual.
even the talk itself has 1/2 of its content directed at inactive jws.. obviously this reduction in pages has been in the works for several weeks if not months.
why pick that date to announce it?
They want to save a few trees for the paradise.
i may be wrong but it seems that with each passing year the number of real jw and religious related threads gets less and less on this site..
You will find even less religious discussion among active JW's. JW's just don't discuss religious stuff. They discuss organization crap and that's it.
Try and start a meaningful religious conversation after a meeting or out in field service.
Religion is a substitute for science and philosophy for the average IQ or brain dead.
This site is no different. No, actually it's slightly better.
this is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
I am an atheist. How could the "Almighty" prove he is really All - Mighty. The assumption is that as humans we could witness an act and determine that it was carried out by someone with infinite power. There may be smarter and stronger entitities or collectives of intelligent etities that are more powerful and intelligent than humans and might even pose as God. But that still falls short of the definition of a Supreme, being.
new generation teaching the process.
after being inspired by a jwn participant i couldnt help myself.
i dug back into my archives and found more secret photos of governing body sessions showing events as they unfolded with watchtowers generation teaching.
I really enjoyed that. Gotta go to the site, really!
last night on "60 minutes",..... they featured the catholic archbishop of dublin.
he exposed his own church, his own "organization".
he exposed documents and testimony about how his church covered up child molesting priests throughout ireland.. he went to a school, to remind himself of what an 8 year old boy looked like - because he was aware of one nasty case involving a boy of that age.. when he was talking, he paused..... because he held back tears.. if you are still a "loyal" witness, i have two things to tell you.
The Watchtower is always warning its members not to harbor "fear of men". Unless, of course it's their "elders".
If it weren't for "fear of men" the Watchtower couldn't hold its organization together.