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  brother flanders and the FBI

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  hey everyone.

  i have reported this poster to the fbi to trace which computer he uses.

  he has threatned to burn our houses down.

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  MARTINLEYSHON

  Hey Everyone

  I have reported this poster to the FBI to trace which computer he uses. He has threatned to burn our houses down. He needs to be arrested and sent to prison. If anyone know his ID please report back to me.

  Martin
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  Former Elders Please Check IN

  by jst2laws in

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  i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1

  i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.

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  from 1989 - 2000 resigned as an elder.
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  Governing Body Summoned For Jud Hearing

  by silentlambs in

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  service committee .

  25 columbia heights

  brooklyn, ny 11201 .

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  oh really
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  Are we wrong to attack the Elders?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  i see a number of board members alluding to the elders as antagonists.

  this is amoral.

  there is an inference that these ones ( elders ) can think for themselves, they cannot.

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  MARTINLEYSHON

  Path

  You are out of order. I can without fear of contradiction say that as a former elder, there was no other group of people that were made to feel guilty on a daily basis than we were. I was fed up with the guilt of have you

  Read your daily Text

  Have you shepherded this month

  Are you on the field ministry setting the lead

  Do you what the list goes on and on. I dont know your background so I am unable to comment further.

  martin
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  Are we wrong to attack the Elders?

  by MARTINLEYSHON in

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  i see a number of board members alluding to the elders as antagonists.

  this is amoral.

  there is an inference that these ones ( elders ) can think for themselves, they cannot.

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  Brummie

  I am rather surprised and sorely disappointed at your dissection of my latest post. You appear to be holding some sort of inner anger than one could only describe as self destructive. I fear for the worse in you. In my original post I said

  There is an inference that these ones ( elders ) can think for themselves, they cannot.

  Lets be honest and without fear of contradiction the majority of Elders are scared shitless of loosing their coveted position,

  These men cant think for themselves, they are not allowed to.

  It is quite simple read between the lines please, have the wisdom of a sound mind. When I referred to the elders who cannot think for them-selves do you not think that I was referring to member elders within their respective congregations? Of course that is the case. One cannot argue with that.

  The above statement would not apply to Circuit level and above. These men will be held more accountable why? Simply put; they have the knowledge of the inner workings of the society.

  Brummie please be assured that at the time I was very proud to be chosen to represent Jehovahs Witnesses in the Wales Region, and of course chair the meetings with some 50 or more Brothers and Sisters that were on my team; covering Media, Academia, Medical issues and so forth. This was a great privilege to have I was the first in to be appointed and the first to attend a course at bethel; but after my training at it opened my eyes to the inner workings of the cult.

  No longer could I lie for them or mislead the public with my well thought out and structured replies. Never answering a direct question being more political with my response than a JW spokesperson.

  Brummie I hope I have made my position crystal clear to you? Have I? For the avoidance of doubt allow me to clarify.

  1. Not all elders are accountable.

  2. The reprehensible ones are those who can freely think for themselves but choose not to for whatever reason.

  3. There are a lot of genuine elders in the borg.

  4. There are a number of elders who are simply the epitome of evil.

  I trust that this clarifies my position, as the light gets brighter and brighter.

  Martin
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  A Question for the Males on the Board

  by teenyuck in

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  as i went about my wifely duties today, i had a thought and would like the imput from some former brothers and/or elders, ms, po, co's.. since leaving the borg, has the way you view your wife/companion/daughter/sister/mother changed?

  let me elaborate.

  while being brought up a dub, i was taught that women were in subjection.

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  I now consider woman to be equal

  martin
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  The Pot Calling the Kettle Black

  by IslandWoman in

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  i wonder sometimes if to outsiders who visit this and other xjw discussion boards it seems as if xjws never "bought the farm" and that's why they look down on those who did.

  there is much ridicule of the rank and file here, why?

  if we placed literature, conducted a bible study, brought a bible study to the point of baptism, gave talks, commented at the watchtower study, volunteered,

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  Farkel

  I never thought that I would say this wow this is hard .........I agree with you on this one ..... there I said it
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  Lets blame the belief system

  by A Paduan in

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  i've just been reading a post about elders, and how the 'belief system' is the blame.

  talk about an extension of jwism.. "but the woman you gave me".. each and every jw that told lies at someone's door, actually "told lies at someone's door".

  simple as that.

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  Sword Of Jah

  From 1971 - 1975 I was telling my school friends that they were all going to die in 1975. As an 11-15 year old where do you think I had that lie from?

  Martin
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  When you became an elder

  by freedom96 in

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  when those of you became an elder, or even perhaps a person of responsibility in the congregation, what did you become aware of that shocked or suprised you behind closed doors, out of the sight of the rest of the congregation, that you would not have known if it were not for your position?.

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  The disrespectful way elders spoke with one another. It really shocked I cried for hours after my first elders meeting. Made me really sad.

  Martin
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  Am I damaging the silentlambs cause?

  by Simon in

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  one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?

  ) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.

  i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.

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  I agree with all the posts.

  Martin