Really? Lilith was the first woman? Is that the same Lilith that is Frasiers ex? God help us all!
Posts by Matty
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16Which came first, man or woman?
by sleepy inif men were created in the image of god , and women created for men , then why do all foetuses start off female?.
according to the bible eve was created out of adam.. well i can't speak for adam but the basic body structure of a human it seams starts off as female , men branching off at a certain point of developement due to man making hormones.it doen't get rid of our nipples though.. if men came first or are in some way superior in gods eyes then why the need to develope as a female first , shouldn't it be the other way round?.
so shouldn't have god made eve first?
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Misconseptions JW's have about us
by terafera ini was talking to my jw sister the other night, long distance.
she, like me, was raised a jw.
she is a sweet, sincere and wonderful woman.
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Matty
Seedy3, I think what U.2.K. means is just the simple basic stuff in the bible that's really just common sense - i.e. we should all love and respect and listen to each other - (I think we'll just gloss over the misogyny and intolerance bits shall we?). The nice stuff - you know what I mean!
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What do you fear most?
by sleepy inwhat do you fear most?.
when a witness i was afraid of dying at the big a. now i just fear dying.
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Matty
Sleepy
I was, and still am afraid of dying at the big A - I never thought I was any good, or worthy, even though I've never done anything that would warrant that feeling - except lack of faith I guess. But at the same time this "fear" has never made me more zealous, like its supposed to - don't you think thats weird?
There's a big part of me that can't shake this feeling off!
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contacting df'd ones?
by nanoo inhi there.
i would like to know what the policy is regarding contacting and spending time with disfellowshipped ones.. have there been any changes?.
nan
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Matty
Welcome nanoo!
Well, that's great that they are talking to you again. I kinda hope they have apologised for the way they have treated you, but I guess they are embarrased and uncomforable with it all. Its so unnatural, the way they (and me too) are forced to behave. I hope you can forgive them.
I understand Nanoo Nanoo is Orkan for "Goodbye", well thats what Orson tells me anyway - you do hear the big voice like I do, don't you?!
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Dist. Conv. Program
by teejay in2002-2003 zealous kingdom proclaimers
district convention of jehovah's witnesses.
friday.
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Matty
I have no reason to believe it isn't - it looks pretty similar to last year.
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Did U find Jesus rude?
by Matty injesus was a nice guy most of the time, but don't you think hes a bit rude and thoughtless sometimes?.
the watchtower today discussed the supposedly marvelous example that jesus showed to youths today, citing his escapade at 12 at the temple.
what hit home to me was that he was missing for three days - three days!
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Matty
Thanks patio!
Can I add that I'm sorry if I offended anyone with this post? I didn't mean it to start a big theological debate or anything, it was just a thought I had today - perhaps I put it in the wrong forum!
Love to all
Matthew
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Did U find Sheperding Calls rude?
by Reborn2002 inreading the lb thread "home but hiding" struck a chord with me.. i remember when i was inactive for the period of about a year the elders made a few "sheperding calls".. did anyone else out there find these very rude and condescending?.
first of all, in my case at least they always showed up unannounced.
how much do you think those "hell-ders" would like it if someone randomly dropped by their house unexpected?
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Matty
Way to go bluesapphire! You make me feel like a complete coward. You see I still toady to the elders now, as if they are so special! I find elders put a kind of condecending "hat" on sometimes, when they need to, thats why it's very difficult to be good friends with one. I hate all that dogma - from any religion actually, even as I type a thread that I started tongue in cheek has been hijacked by folk who take it all far too seriously!
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Dist. Conv. Program
by teejay in2002-2003 zealous kingdom proclaimers
district convention of jehovah's witnesses.
friday.
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Matty
Did you really? They reminded me of ex-lax. Are you still on the toilet now?!
I think they also put bromide in the tea.
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Dist. Conv. Program
by teejay in2002-2003 zealous kingdom proclaimers
district convention of jehovah's witnesses.
friday.
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Matty
Food at the conventions is just nostalgia to us in the UK. It was called "simplification".
The real story was that in 1968 the Watch Tower Society of Great Britain bought a job lot of "Hellas" chocolate bars - about a million I think - noone else wanted them, I guess. They tasted disgusting, and they weren't even real chocolate. We only had the food service until those bars were sold out. Unsold bars were kept in storage until the next year. Finally in about 1990 they sold the last one, and so they could finally stop the food service and get all the volunteers to actually listen to the sessions - something that none of them had done for about thirty years!
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new end?
by a2j88 init's just that i have heard that the watchtower is once again trying to predict the end probobly false but i just want to know if you have heard it it is october 8 2002
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Matty
Welcome aboard! It's the first I heard of it. Oh dear, I've just been disrespectful to the main man in another thread - I've only got about six months to live! Doh!!!