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Complement a Poster

by Black Man in

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here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.

i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.

but i'll single out some peeps in particular.

Maximus

BlackMan, you are unique--a special gift.

Hope we hook up one day. I have the marks of the chain on me too, and that makes us more than brothers.

Max

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Blood, The Watchtower and Deceit

by Maximus in

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while much attention is given to doctrine in sites such as this, very little is noted about the watchtower societys intellectual dishonesty in its publications, especially when it comes to quotations.. oftentimes the societys writers will cite a scholar or author of some repute: "professor blank observes that blah, blah, blah.

" the reader assumes from the quotation that professor blank is in agreement with the organizations position, of course, and that the quotation chosen accurately depicts the authors thoughts.. heres the catch: the words between the quotation marks may be accurate, but the snippet may not at all faithfully represent someones actual thesis or position.

much like a newspaper ad for a movie that quotes a reviewer as saying "monumental!

Maximus

Someone has kindly sent me scans, which I will forward to Hawk tomorrow. If anyone writes, kindly omit the personal extraneous banter of the thread and attempts at identification of contributors. Thanks!
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RRS, I'm not sure what you see in this thread, that you post this recommendation (commercial?) here. I'm puzzled, particularly because I am joyous and have no feeling of being alone. After decades of intense Bible study, I feel no need of reassurance.

I've visited your site, now perhaps you would return the courtesy.

Would you kindly define a "normal Bible?" Some have suggested that the King James Version is the only normal Bible. If so, then God speaks only Elizabethan English. Is this perhaps what you mean? Could you clarify?

I note you cited not only Eph 2:8 but v. 9 as well. Verse 10 continues: "For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand to be our way of life." (That's from what most folks would call a normal Bible that I bought from a Christian bookstore, the NRSV.)

What are these good works that are to be our way of life, if it is all a matter of grace? No need to define grace; I thoroughly grasp the concept, down to its roots in the Old Testament.

Incidentally, the next verse (11) reads: "So then, remember that at one time you Gentiles by birth, called 'the uncircumcision' by those who are called 'the circumcision' ... remember that you were at that time without Christ ... now you have been brought near."

I ask, To whom was the book of Ephesians specifically written? In what year? Why was it written? What was the idea the Bible writer conveying to his audience, particularly in the context of the cited verses?

"Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Would you tell me where this Bible verse is found, who wrote it, and why it was written?

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to make yet another point about how vital it is to look at context. Welcome, RRS.

Maximus
Edit: There was no need to send the identical post to my hotmail account, RRS. I would just change the tense of your title: The truth HAS set me free.

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Using the Watchtower to Ruin Your Children

by metatron in

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the circuit overseer spoke from the platform sternly,.

"we seem to have a problem in this circuit with young brothers.

not having any ambition, either in the truth or even in the world".

Maximus

::But it's nice to see the stars as stars again.

Powerful.

The only answer/antidote is

Education
................Education
................................Education

Maximus

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I'm tired of the gutless, Maximus!

by metatron in

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i always enjoy your posts.. my frustration here is with 'liberals' in this organization.. i know that decent, caring brothers and sisters exist.

in bethel and local congregations.

feel bad about what's happening and the lack of principle.

Maximus

Got a frantic phone call from someone who had seen your post but misunderstood it.

I wrote a reply last night, and today I see it's disappeared somewhere in cyberspace. Don't keep copies of what I write, just beat it out, so I need to do it all over again. Drat.

Send me an e-mail with your address so I can respond privately. I'd love to connect. Neither you nor I are scratching more than the surface publicly ...

Wasasister stole my line: Thank God for the comma.

Later,
Max

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To Kent Vikingerblut, with Love

by Maximus in

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kent, i doff my hat.

might even bow, but you know the old obeisance thing is a no-no.

this is an absolutely brilliant piece of writing that i just didn't want to get buried--i'd love to have dinner and glenfiddych with the author; never mind that viking stuff that passes for beer.

Maximus

Kent, I doff my hat. Might even bow, but you know the old obeisance thing is a no-no.

This is an absolutely brilliant piece of writing that I just didn't want to get buried--I'd love to have dinner and Glenfiddych with the author; never mind that Viking stuff that passes for beer. Ah, Morningside Heights ...

Insight with humor is so very powerful. In it we recognize truth.

Thanks for exposing nonsense with facts in a couple of posts today. When you do that, you rule.

From Maximus,
With Love
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Welcome to Kent’s Hotline, your regular stop for advice to help you lead a happier and more productive existence as a cog in the New World Order. We will now take a user-friendly look at a problem plaguing many an undergraduate:

being followed.

Bear in mind, dear sweet impressionable reader, that there are several different scenarios of being followed in which you may find yourself. Hence, there is no great and wonderful catch-all solution for your feeble mind to depend on. We'll start with the basics.

If you begin to notice a lot of large black luxury sedans with tinted windows everywhere you go, chances are something is up. Now, this could be one of several situations, so look for other clues. Clothing can be an important clue, and we all know what a JW elder looks like. They’re not the ones we will study here.

1) If these mysterious onyx autos are often accompanied by the sounds of lamenting violins, the mafia is most likely keeping tabs on you for one reason or another.

2) If, instead, you observe an excess of neatly-dressed middle-aged men wearing sunglasses who seem to have a constant earwax problem that they cannot help but attend to in public, you are being tracked by the FBI or one of its sister organizations.

3) If you see theocratic-dressed persons on every corner trying to "place" Watchtowers and Awake! - something is up. If old Ted has scared his salesmen to go out in the streets, expect some "New Light" - but there is no immediate danger.

"But Kent," you protest, "I don't have big expensive cars following me. All I'm worried about are the phone calls to my room at all hours and the flyers left outside my door. What about that?"

Well, shut your pie-hole, we're getting to that. Now go make us a sandwich. So, you were a little over-zealous on activities day, signing up for as much as possible. Maybe even reading the website “Wake Up America”. Hey, maybe you were worried about finding enough friends to distract you from the inevitable entropy that is a Columbia education. Now look at the mess you've gotten yourself into.

While most clubs will leave you alone after you disregard that first e-mail or information session, there is one organization to be wary of: the ILLUMINATI. Now you've got a group of friends for life. The only way to get them to leave you alone is to engage one of the members in a debate where you expound on the benefit of using the death penalty on retarded children who are only just taking up space anyway. If you don't deal with them soon, you'll find yourself knee-deep in unwashed Socialist couch-surfers.

Of course, you may be lucky. You might only have to worry about being followed by one person. This could be a good old-fashioned stalker, a creepy Hitchcockian stranger, a JW elder who is looking for biblical reasons for divorce, or a private detective. If it's either of the last two, you are on your own. I don't want to get involved. These folk are professionals, members of unions or God’s own Organization, and usually quite adept at whatever it is they're doing. In fact, if you've noticed their presence, then it's already too late for you. You’re DOOMED!

Moving on. So, you've deduced that what you have is in fact an old-fashioned unprofessional stalker. This species is found to be quite common on urban college campuses. Consider it a compliment that someone would take the time not only to notice you, but to commit to memory your every move and habit.

Now that you've learned to appreciate your stalker, it is time to lose them. There are a few basic lengths you can go to. First, invest in disguises. Anything will do, but try to stay away from the type that draw attention, such as a pirate, a clown, or a Tele-Tubby, as they are counterproductive to your cause.

Next you should take your name out of the directory and have your mail forwarded to a P.O. Box in Chinatown. Of course, if you find your new "friend" is still following you around, resort to the most failsafe tactic ever: make a habit of taking leisurely strolls through Morningside Park at one in the morning, pretending to be a publisher. Carry the Watchtower and Awake! clearly visible. While this may not deter your stalker, it will increase your chances of getting him killed. You just claim to be persecuted, scream your heart out about religious persecution, human rights, whatever. That usually works.

Of course, there are several other brands of being followed out there, and everyone needs advice as to how to identify and avoid them. However, we cannot possibly cover all of them here. The guys from Pentagon, The guys in trenchcoats and dark glasses watching you in the store, suddenly pretending to be interested in a can of Rotel tomatoes when you turn toward them – the ones following COMF these days, I can’t cover them here. If you see them often, you might consider seeing a shrink.

Just a few others worth mentioning: If you find that you are being followed by a pack of wild dogs, resort to the good old Hood-style of fence hopping. Getting enough tall partitions between you and the rabid beasts as quickly as possible is crucial to your survival. In a related situation, if you find that you are being followed by a steady stream of blood every where you go, see a doctor immediately.

Well, that's my advice for this month. Check me out next time for more handy advice you just can't live without. Who knows, we might finally tell you where we hid your medication.

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"WorldWatch" on JW's...good stuff here

by sf in

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< http://www.millennia.co.za/worldwatch/watchtower.htm.

< http://www.millennia.co.za/worldwatch/cults.htm.

as you scroll the page, there are many great and to the point questions that are asked of the reader if and when they become or are perhaps considering becoming a member.. and more on freemasons/ illuminati (for those who have requested more pages on this topic):.

Maximus

I saw the play "Amadeus" on broadway and was thunderstruck by it.
Different from the movie, there were long lines of monologue in which Salieri came to the conclusion that God was playing favorites with this sniggering child while he Salieri was merely imbued with mediocrity.

He declares war on God, shaking his fist at the heavens. If I can find the MS I'll quote some of the lines, which actually speak to some of the controversies we see on the board. Lots of insight.

Part of my JW recovery tool kit is Mozart. Heard the Requiem at the Mostly Mozart Festival at Lincoln Center. Ambrosia.

M

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"WorldWatch" on JW's...good stuff here

by sf in

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< http://www.millennia.co.za/worldwatch/watchtower.htm.

< http://www.millennia.co.za/worldwatch/cults.htm.

as you scroll the page, there are many great and to the point questions that are asked of the reader if and when they become or are perhaps considering becoming a member.. and more on freemasons/ illuminati (for those who have requested more pages on this topic):.

Maximus

Not hard for those who know you, good friend; not hard at all.

Of interest, I just read a medical journal article that postulates Wolfie's wife Constanze actually did him in unintentionally, with some bad pork. The author went through his diaries, and noted the composer's comments about the meat to be served. Tsk, tsk, Stanze.

Then again, maybe the Illuminati got to her because of Die Zauberflote, the Magic Flute, divulging all that secret stuff for all the world to see for hundreds of years. Hmmmm.

Evidence, please. And don't tell me it's true because it's in print somewhere--that's what the Society does in its quotations.

I've had enough "could be" about 1975 or Armageddon around the corner to last three lifetimes.

Maximus

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The Black Pope

by Treborr Jones in

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any one interested in a peek behind the scenes of the vatican and american politics should really read the black pope.

a real eye opener.. try http://hardtruth.topcities.com/blackpope.htm

Maximus

Treborr or whoever,
this sheds more light on you than it does on exJW needs and issues.

I warmly welcome you too, but if you insist on assertions and asinine stuff, e.g., Natheer Salih is a 6'2" Jew who passed instructions from the Illuminati to Fred Franz, your head will be handed you on a platter. At least half a dozen of us on this board have known this person well and have first-hand knowledge. Publishing this kind of utter nonsense just because "it could be true" just gives researchers a bad name, and is exactly what the Society can point to as demonstrably false.

People here have been distracted and lied to for a long time and will not tolerate that kind of insidious approach.

"George Bush murdered two women secretly years ago."
"Well, it COULD BE," and someone else has written about it, is an unacceptable answer and demeans our intelligence.

You misunderstood Farkel. He's on the right track, all right. His assessment of your other post was

baloney.

You are free to say anything you want. But be fairly warned.
Speak the truth, not innuendo, not supposition.

Maximus

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