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  Scriptures for brother taking field service group

  by FL_Panthers in

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  i have recently been given the privilege of taking the field service group.. .

  can anyone give me some scriptures i can use to encourage the group?

  can you also give a reason as to why these scriptures are helpful to our ministry.. .

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  Lied2NoMore

  Hey fl_panthers...I used to recently be in your shoes..thinking it a privilege to lead a service group...was encouraging to all there and hyped up enthusiasm for the ministry...but in the end...I discovered and verified some very disturbing things about the WT organization that brought my recruiting efforts to a screeching halt...

  If you read other posts you will see recommendations of various books that will shed unflattering and very truthful light on an organization that claims to be gods sole channel of communication to mankind but has nothing to back it up. More wrong than right doctrine has been spewed and recent doctrine changes happen more and more frequently with blinding speed...but none of the criticizm will make sense unless you first hear it in full then go verify it with WT history...I was all in and still would be if the WT could back up their claims to be "the truth" and willing to be scrutinized without DFing someone for disbeleiving one doctrine or several or all of them....that indicates fear of scrutiny and truth shouldnever fear scrutiny
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  Arguments to prove Noah's Ark story is just a myth

  by will-be-apostate in

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  i've been thinking for a while about the topic mentioned in the title and came to the conclusion that the flood story from the bible provides a very good starting point for proving the bible wrong.. in the following paragraphs i'll be only presenting ideas and potentially logic errors, and possible answer.

  i didn't do any serious research yet, for in order to answer various questions a good base in specific branch of science is required.. according to the bible (the internet) the volume of the ark was 137.16 m * 22.86 m * 13.716 m = 43006 cubic meters (roughly).

  if we was to subtract the volume of the interior structure (elements like walls, stairs, etc.

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  Lied2NoMore

  If the ark was floating in water as deep as highest point on earth it would have been like 35,000 feet up from land.

  If we suddenly could be elevated to that height the first breath we took would instantly freeze our lungs and you would be dead within a few minutes. Air temp at that height is in the -55 to -60 degree range.

  My figures are estimated but even anywhere close to that height and your quite dead quite quickly
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  Today's day's text

  by tornapart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i fumed when i read this.

  enjoy picking it apart friends.... become imitators of god.eph.

  one way to imitate jehovah is to adopt his viewpoint regarding matters.

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  Lied2NoMore

  Thats why I no longer read printed material by WTBTS and why I don't visit JW.ORG
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  Combatting Agoraphobia in NONJWland

  by Jon Preston in

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  2. friends

  my daughter starts school soon.

  and i cant help but be afraid of the big bad world....the freedom we have is scary and im irrationally afraid of my kids getting in with the wrong crowd....in jwland it wasnt so bad becaus you felt safe.

  so now i know that safe haven is actually bs how do i get it out of my head?

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  Lied2NoMore

  From one little girls daddy to another...here is the secret...spoil that kid and treat her like she is the center of the universe..never ever let her doubt your deep love..even when she misbehaves...keep her close.....the result?

  She will be reluctant to ever do anything to disappoint you and when she gets interested in boys all of them will have to meet the standard that you have set for her on how she is treated and when she decides to get married as mine is very soon...you wont have to worry who your handing her off to.

  I still am gonna miss my little buddy but she will be treated well..
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  How many in the cong visited you when you started fading

  by joe134cd in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm just curious speaking from a person who has stopped going to meetings.

  i have heard reports from inactive ones (or from ones who the elders suspect of going to the dark side) of having so many visits from elders (cong members) that it got to the point of harassment.

  surprisingly i have to say from personal experience and from numerous others that i have spoken to that the exact opposite has been the case.

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  Lied2NoMore

  No visits except attempts by elders until I filed harassment complaint against them...but its interesting..the ones who treated me and my family like utter shit are suddenly VERY nice...I think they know they fucked up by being assholes..I became very vocal about mistreatment by certain ones in our Cong and they now see the result of their error..

  .I'm gone....
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  Does seeing a flood make you think of gods promise not destroy the earth again by rain, or something else?

  by UsuaIusern@me in

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  please tell.

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  Lied2NoMore

  Why would almighty JEW-hovah with a perfect memory...knows exactly how many hairs are on your head...who calls all the celestial bodies in existence by name......has all dead locked away in his perfect memory so he can resurrect them when he is damn good and ready....

  ......NEED A RAINBOW TO REMIND HIMSELF NOT TO DESTROY THE WORLD AGAIN?????

  Just a little wakeup call....
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  The Judicial Committee videos in english

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. friends

  not sure if this has been posted but the jwsurvey site received the videos in english from someone.. this crap is pathetic to watch.

  how to counsel someone who is suicidal... really.

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/doubts-over-organizational-solidarity-as-disturbing-video-on-handling-suicide-is-leaked.

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  Lied2NoMore

  Found the lack of narration very revealing in that the WT legal department had their say to omit narration to not link the HQ with these videos as if the boys in Brooklyn have no involvement in these star chamber style proceedings...always looking out for their own asses....
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  B.O.E. 13/01/14

  by LucidChimp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "in minnesota, a man said to his visitors: "i saw you coming, so i went to get this book.

  " he held up a bible teach book and said that when he was in prison, he stole the book.

  when asked if he had read it, he replied that he was going to read it on the weekend while he was fishing.

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  Lied2NoMore

  The man has been identified. ..his name? Andre....
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  Just when you thought we had heard the epitomy of stupid WT comments....

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we thought we had heard all the stupid things printed by watchtower thru the history.

  nope!

  this one takes the cake and gets the applause!!!.

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  Lied2NoMore

  the pattern of behavior is just as vile today as it was back then.......disagree with anything the watchtower does or teaches you get cast out and shunned

  they keep the same pattern as Rutherford started which is one of the few things that remains from the Rutherford era
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  Just when you thought we had heard the epitomy of stupid WT comments....

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we thought we had heard all the stupid things printed by watchtower thru the history.

  nope!

  this one takes the cake and gets the applause!!!.

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  Lied2NoMore

  The thing I would add about Rutherford regarding anything he said would be the clip from the Faith in Action DVD where Rutherford was berated for hours and then those who did the berating were cast out of the WT and shunned...we can assume correctly these associates of Rutherford knew what a crackhead he was...brought it to his attention and since he was the head cheese..got rid of them...NOW that Rutherford is dead and rotting. .WT can abandon everything he taught and believed ONLY because the self proclaimed ASS is dead...