I learned that brothers giving public talks who haven't gone to college pull out all kinds of sciencey "facts" that are just bogus to try to "prove the Bible" to a house of nodding heads while I roll my eyes because he's totally wrong. No wonder they don't want us educated!
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What actually DID you learn?
by punkofnice inmy jw friends that still speak to me, tell me that they love the meetings because of the things they learn.. i wonder what they think they're learning?
it an avenue that always perplexes me because their replies are just so wishy washy or i get a blank stare when i ask.. what's you r experience?.
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Tight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses...
by Muddy Waters intight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses... .
does anybody remember any thing else that was once or still is proscribed against faithful j-dubs?
when brothers in our kh started wearing different colored shirts rather than white, it caused a great stir and ruckus.
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ThinkerBelle
An old timey CO said all women should wear pantyhose and no open toe shoes or sandals because they are not appropriate........
I wear fancy flipflops to meetings - it's hot - so bite me!!
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Assembly baptisms/attendance - keep 'em coming!
by freddo indon't forget to post your reported assembly and convention attendance and baptisms and whether they are higher or lower than customary (if you know).. here's some detail passed to me of the last circuit assembly held at surrey (uk) assembly hall.. attendance 922 baptisms 3 (half circuit).
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Simon - Ha, interesting point! They had a cringe-worthy interview nonetheless of the ultimate do-gooder variety traipsing said child all over the U.S. in an RV staying places only months at a time with RBC and need-greater work. When the line "She's been our sister for an hour" came out, I wanted to hurl. I can't even imagine taking the dunk at that young of an age before you hit your developing teen years. Will love to see where the story ends up in 10 more years! -
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Assembly baptisms/attendance - keep 'em coming!
by freddo indon't forget to post your reported assembly and convention attendance and baptisms and whether they are higher or lower than customary (if you know).. here's some detail passed to me of the last circuit assembly held at surrey (uk) assembly hall.. attendance 922 baptisms 3 (half circuit).
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ThinkerBelle
1329 attendance 6 baptized
One 10 year old ( parents had experience during afternoon sesh), the rest most likely teens/young adults and one guy that looked 40s-50s.
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One day assemblies
by Sour Grapes inthis may have been discussed before.
the costs for using the assembly hall for a one day last saturday was $12,000 with another assembly for the other half of the circuit on sunday, which will ring up another $12,000.
if the assembly was for two days the friends might roll their eyes if it were announced the costs for the two days was $24,000.
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What I thought odd is that they first announced the surplus in the "circuit account" (about $15,000) and then go on to talk about the cost of the one day - ours was over $13,000 yesterday in an assembly hall building we built so no need to move equipment or rent - then they announce the incoming donations so far and give the deficit, which was like $2,500, never taking into account the surplus. -
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Jehovah's witnesses are the fastest growing religion.
by hoser inthat is what the speaker said in his public talk this morning.
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Does growing up in a religious family make you MEAN?
by Divergent inyeah, i was mean.
could it be that i was not encouraged to have non-jw's as friends, so i viewed them as insignificant?
could it be that i found it difficult to live up to "christian standards" and took it out on others?
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Interesting study, but I don't necessarily agree with it from my experience. I was always kind and empathetic to others. I shared my toys and I am a born in. I think a lot more plays into it than just religion like upbrininging, personality, and culture - which is affected by religion, but not wholly. My parents were always kind and helpful. My mom was a caregiver and I would help her with some of the day out excursions ( saw first had how people can be mean towards people who are "different,), so maybe that shaped me. I don't recall being mean to or being instructed to ignore kids at school. Sure, I wasn't allowed to hang out with them for the most part after school unless it was for a project, but in school I had several friends, even had "clubs" with a few in elementary. They were also religious from religious households and treated people kindly and me even as a JW. Maybe I don't relate to the story because I'm more of a humanist than most Christians too.......and my youngest son is the epitomy of kindness towards others and he's only known the JW way thus far.
Adding - however, I do know of many JWs and religious zealots who would fit this bill. I've seen unkind atheists as well (my BIL, for example).
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Handing out candy
by mikeypants ingrowing up my parents would barricade our home off by parking vehicles bumper to bumper - you would have to crawl under the cars or over the bumpers to get to our door.
also, we would turn off all the lights and hide in the back room away from the street.. that was the norm for me.
isnt that insane?
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This was posted on my fb from a JW friend......it made me chuckle. We'd always stay in the back room, but it was funny when it was on bookstudy night as people I guess would assume we were having a party with all the lights on and we'd get numerous bell rings that night.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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Great post STA! You can disagree with someone without being a jerk about it. I'm always hesitant to post on other threads sometimes because of some of the comments. -
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Your thoughts on Halloween , yes, no or maybe ?
by Finkelstein inwell its that time again when the ghouls come out to play.
i personally think halloween is a bit irresponsible and inappropriate from a sociological perspective.. there's something about the intent of frightening young impressionable children minds with frightening objests.
and feeding them candy which most likely cause tooth decay and stomachs is irresponsible activity conducted by adults.
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Oh please, this is the same type of nonsense that the Watchtower tries to say - that somehow the roots have some sort of evil beginning. Who cares!
This is 2015, these things have a different meaning for us. For us it's about letting kids having a little fun (minus the door knocking, i hate that), and about putting a costume, being silly, and enjoying it. Who cares if at some point in history some ancient civilization had some sort of agenda tied to this day.
Who cares if christmas trees, or wedding rings, or black cats had some sort of pagan ritual done by ancient and backwards civilizations. These things mean what we want them to mean.The meaning for you may be different than the meaning for me, so......who cares if this is the stance I want to take. I was answering the original question, not soliciting judgement as I wouldn't pass judgement on someone who does want to celebrate. My kids get a candy pack at school from their teacher for Halloween, I don't take it away from them, but we just won't go trick-or-treating. I know this is a typical JW line, but kids can dress up, have fun, and eat candy at other times and for other reasons too, heck, my kids are always dressing up at home - this is just one of the things I won't be participating in and that's my choice to make.
