Posts by ThinkerBelle

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Funeral Fashion

by ThinkerBelle in

i have a funeral to attend for a non jw family member and the jdub family member reminded me that i should not wear black.

for the life of me, i can't recall where this belief came from in jw teachings and i'm born in.

is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief?

Thank you, Atlantis! I assumed there had to be something in print for this particular person to run with it. I always thought it was meant a sign of respect and I have been to funerals where certain colors or types of clothes were requested also to honor the passed one.

I think pretty much everything the jdubs preach now is because of paganism, without realizing they accept many things that have the same roots. Ugh, I'm so done, fading can be a drag sometimes!

Scully, yes, I wear a lot of black....why would I go out of my way to not, LOL!

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Funeral Fashion

by ThinkerBelle in

i have a funeral to attend for a non jw family member and the jdub family member reminded me that i should not wear black.

for the life of me, i can't recall where this belief came from in jw teachings and i'm born in.

is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief?

ThinkerBelle

I have a funeral to attend for a non JW family member and the JDub family member reminded me that I should not wear black. For the life of me, I can't recall where this belief came from in JW teachings and I'm born in. Is there something in print or is that just a personal opinion belief? Is it tied to something pagan (oh, surprise!)?

For the record, I am going to wear black just to be spiteful (PIMO).

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Anti vaccines

by blisterfeet in

i personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.

there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.

what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?

ThinkerBelle

my research I did over the years when I compared vaxxers to anti-vaxxers the anti-vaxxers were for the most part more healthy and were requiring less doctors visits for illnesses/diseases than their counterparts.

Um, Stonewall, I've had every vaccine as have my children and we are rarely ever sick and I don't have a doctor either because well, I've been healthy; no ADD or Autism or SIDS by anyone in my family or close friends for that matter either (all vaccinated). By contrast, there are people at the KH that are antivax and into homeopathy and they are constantly sick. So based on your standards of research, anti-vaxxing isn't a good thing.

As Orphan Crow said, you misrepresent your personal experience for actual scientifically, peer reviewed research (I'm guessing you don't hold a doctorate)...which is a mistake. Having had my 4 month old cousin contract whooping cough, I wouldn't wish that on anybody and why anyone would want to take the risk of their child experiencing any of those diseases is beyond me.

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Baptised 52 years today!

by Phoebe in

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friends

january 29th - my baptism date.

can you remember how you felt at your baptism?.

i got baptised because my dad kept frightening me.

ThinkerBelle

It was the 90s. I was born-in, elder's kid, 16 at the time and constantly questioned when I was going to get baptized because I was obviously old enough and all my other elder's kid friends had taken the dunk - what was wrong with me? I did it so people would stop bugging me about it. I had no feeling or emotional connection to it nor felt any different afterwards. It was simply a step you took in JWland...that I now fully regret having come to the actual "truth" several years ago.

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Binky Use

by ThinkerBelle in

i am trying to find the ridiculous beliefs jw had on the use of a binky or pacifier.

i did a search, but can't find it, i know others have referenced it on here.

i'm trying to share with my husband; we're talking about the stupid doctrines they came up with in the early years.. thanks!.

ThinkerBelle

I am trying to find the ridiculous beliefs JW had on the use of a binky or pacifier. I did a search, but can't find it, I know others have referenced it on here. I'm trying to share with my husband; we're talking about the stupid doctrines they came up with in the early years.

Thanks!

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Was disfellowshipping really sanctioned by God? Please share your honest views according to your Bible views

by Strugglingrsa in

what were the writers of the bible telling christians when they wrote : “stop keeping company with anyone called a brother who is sexually immoral or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man.” (1 corinthians 5:11) regarding everyone who “does not remain in the teaching of the christ,” we read: “do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him.

for the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works.” (2 john 9-11.

ThinkerBelle

OP = Original Post(er)

PIMI = Physically In, Mentally In (Meaning a full on unquestioning believer)

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Do you celebrate Christmas?

by LovingLifeNow in

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friends

do you celebrate and how long have you been out?

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3 years for me and yes i do..

ThinkerBelle

Yes, we do secularly for the fun and being with family. We keep gift giving to a reasonable amount. I love Christmas songs; they've been on my radio for 3 weeks now! This will be our 3rd time celebrating (actually, my 4th if you add in that one time I did when away from home) and technically, I'm still "in", but with family that aren't.

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Happy Face to the World vs. Controlling Dogma to the Publishers

by Solzhenitsyn in

holidays.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-celebrate-holidays/ .

"regarding other holidays, each witness makes his or her own choice, striving “to maintain a clear conscience before god and men.”.

ThinkerBelle

Thanksgiving is a religious holiday? That's a new one on me considering it's always been considered a secular holiday (in the US) since Lincoln/Roosevelt made it official.

That said, what other holidays are there?? I think they covered banning all of them...

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February 2018 Watchtower - Addressing abuse Victims

by Listener in

there's a preview note on one of the articles in this newly released watchtower.

the note can be found on an article titled "part 1 of 4 love and justice in ancient israel".the note states -.

this article is the first in a series of four that will discuss why we can be sure that jehovah cares about us.

ThinkerBelle

Jehovah loves us and knows when we suffer injustice. He feels our pain more keenly than a mother feels the suffering of her baby. (Isa. 49:15) Although he may not intervene immediately, in due time he will hold unrepentant wrongdoers to account for the way they have treated others.

So Jah feels our pain more than a mother, but he won't intervene right away. Really?? Most mothers would respond immediately to a child in pain, not wait it out until the right time. I call BS on that statement.

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Live 'as though' God is true and goodness is real? Why? Why not?

by TerryWalstrom in

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friends

in the long run, goodness can be as real as we care to live it.

and if we live 'as though' god were as real as we once believed--how can we go wrong?let us think about this...what would happen if we were given a large amount of cash and we spent it on gifts for our loved ones but-- a knock at the door and the police are here!

that cash was counterfeit and those gifts must be confiscated...what then?good intentions are only that--intentions-- if there is no "there" there.when we were each others' brothers and sisters our love was real but the currency was counterfeit.

ThinkerBelle

The opening question brought to mind Euthyphro's dilemma - check it out.

My conclusion is that you don't need a god in order to be good or do good things.